102. Jodi Meschuk, how she cured her sons autism
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Jodie Meschuk: [00:00:00] And when I did try to start asking questions, I was gaslighted from the very beginning. So when I asked the pediatrician, hey, is it possible that we could delay the schedule? I was met with you can't come to this practice at all if you don't vaccinate according to the schedule.

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Dr. Sam SIgoloff: I appreciate any prayers, any monetary support you can give. My next guest, very special is a mother, Jody Meshchuk, and her son had autism. And she says had autism because [00:02:00] she figured out how to reverse her son's autism. And this should make everyone just stop wherever you are and pull up a chair and have a listen to Jodi.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Because she's got some amazing things here that I want to hear, how she was able to reverse autism. So Jody, thank you for coming on.

Jodie Meschuk: Yeah. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. It's always good to try to get this truth out there because as it's really hard on other platforms and people need to know that there's absolutely something you can do for your children.

Jodie Meschuk: Whether it's autism or whether it's ADHD or quite honestly, the thousands upon thousands of labels that they give children today. And they're coming up with new labels every day. So yes, thank you for having me.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: So tell me what you think started the autism. And then what road you went down to try and help relieve those symptoms.

Jodie Meschuk: So I always, when I [00:03:00] talk about my story, I always take people back and help them look at their own journey too, because for me, as a new mother I, and this was now 13, 15 years ago, that we first started weathering this, and I had my first child 15 years ago, and when you're in that place, as a new mother, there's a lot to navigate.

Jodie Meschuk: There is a lot of noise both actually on both ends of the spectrum I find nowadays back then You would find most of the noise more in the allopathic or the kind of conventional Western medicine realm And what you find typically as a new mother is you find that there's a lot of shaming and gaslighting that happens when you start to ask questions, when you start to dig deeper.

Jodie Meschuk: For me, in that stage, I was brand new to it, like many first time mothers are. And back then even just 15 years ago, there was a lot of conversation kind of bubbling to the surface surrounding vaccines [00:04:00] surrounding really just the conversation of do vaccines cause autism. And at that time, many of you guys will remember if you've been around for a little while, you'll remember that's when Jenny McCarthy was the one out there speaking about this because of her own story with her own son.

Jodie Meschuk: And so here I am as a new mother trying to figure it out and the one thing that doesn't go through your mind as a new mother is that would ever happen to your child. Nobody ever really thinks to themselves, Oh, my child is going to go down a road of, a, an autism road, let's say, or anything like you just don't think about that as a new mother.

Jodie Meschuk: And although I was listening to the things that were going on, because you're. You're trying to be aware of all the things, you're trying to, nobody wants to harm their baby intentionally, I don't think, sure, we obviously have, we hear stories far and few between in the media of things that happen with parents who make, really poor choices, but I don't think the average mother [00:05:00] goes out there and says Hey, pump my kid full of vaccines.

Jodie Meschuk: Let's harm them. That's just not a typical thought process. So as mothers, you're, you are aware and you're looking for how do I have a healthy baby? And how do I have a healthy pregnancy? And what about the delivery? And the thing is when you start to go through that line of questioning or just even critical thinking, You're very easily pulled into the system and that's what I think people need to be on guard first And that's where for me in my situation I think I was just a little bit too trusting of the system and I find that is now 15 years down the road where I now help parents recover their children and I give them an action plan and work with them closely to be able to see these things.

Jodie Meschuk: I think, when you're in that position, you just assume that there's no way that the hospital would do something to harm your child. There's no way that a pediatrician would knowingly or willingly do something to harm your child. [00:06:00] But the reality of it is. They do, whether they do it intentionally or unintentionally, the system is not set up for parents to take control of their health or to take control of their family.

Jodie Meschuk: So that's first and foremost is that's where I found myself. is I do believe looking back, that is what contributed to the path that we went on for our first child. So here I am and it's a little, I'll try to shorten the story as much as possible because we only have an hour and there's a lot to go through.

Jodie Meschuk: But I do want to say that if anybody wants to read our full story or know exactly what they can do, that is why I have my book that I wrote, Autism Reimagined, because we have to start reimagining this epidemic. This epidemic is not going away. In fact, it's getting worse and it is predicted that one in two boys will have autism within the next few years.

Jodie Meschuk: And that should scare the crap [00:07:00] out of people. The problem is it doesn't. Because we don't ever think that's going to happen to our child and we put our faith and trust into a system that does not care about the health of your child. The bottom line is they actually really don't care about the health.

Jodie Meschuk: They treat them as a number. It's in and out in a well visit, pump them full of vaccines, and you're on your merry way. And then if something happens, guess what? They're not responsible. How convenient. They're not responsible. I go back to this initial process of, Here I am, I'm pregnant, and you hear all the things like, Don't eat sushi, and don't do this, and don't do that.

Jodie Meschuk: Which that's a whole other podcast, but you're doing the best you can, right? You're doing the best you can as a mother. And then you go through that process of, okay, what do I want my birth to be? And for me, the situation that I was in at the time was I wasn't super trusting of. My own ability to be able to give birth on my own meaning having a home birth [00:08:00] or doing it unmedicated There was a lot of scary things that there's a lot of scary things You're told and a lot of fear that can creep in you could talk to a fellow mom who is like Oh, I had the worst experience ever.

Jodie Meschuk: It was so painful. It was so horrible. Make sure you get the epidural that just automatically taints Your experience right off the bat without even having an experience. So here I was basically think of a conventional pregnancy, right? So I did all the ultrasounds, which a lot of people don't realize that in that initial period where the baby is in the womb and life absolutely begins at conception.

Jodie Meschuk: So the baby is in the womb and you what is the standard protocol at six to eight weeks? You think you're pregnant, you miss your period. You go in and the standard protocol is to get an ultrasound. A lot of parents don't realize that those cells are splitting super fast at that point, and now you hit it with some radiation.

Jodie Meschuk: What do we think happens? So this [00:09:00] conversation of autism, and I'll pull people through, based off of my story, some of these facts that people don't know or realize, is that autism is very layered. A lot of people like to say it was the vaccines that solely caused the autism that can be very true in certain situations.

Jodie Meschuk: Absolutely. I believe in that. And that's a part of our story, but it's the entire process. It's what was the mother exposed to in pregnancy ultrasounds right from the very beginning. Then that horrible orange drink that's full of chemicals. Then they try to coerce you into a flu shot and a Tdap shot.

Jodie Meschuk: If you are getting something injected into your body. Your baby's getting something injected into their body. We have to remember that always. It is not like they're in this little bubble. No, whatever you are exposed to, both emotionally and physically, environmentally, your baby is exposed to as well.

Jodie Meschuk: Autism, I love it when the haters come at me on social media and say My child didn't get any vaccines, [00:10:00] and they got autism. Congratulations if it's actually true your child didn't get any vaccines, because that's pretty rare, in my opinion. But, you're right, is that it is multi layered. Often times it's the vaccines that are the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Jodie Meschuk: Or it's the vaccines that are the underlying root of why the immune system just simply cannot function. And then you have other hits coming in, right? And we'll talk about those hits. So traditional pregnancy, thank the Lord, I did not get a flu shot or a Tdap because I was offered it many times, but I did get the ultrasounds and I did do the stupid orange drink.

Jodie Meschuk: And then I went in and here I am, going in for one of my last appointments. And oftentimes what they'll do in that last appointment is give you a group B strep test. So I was group B positive, which 50%, sometimes 30 to 50% of women end up being group B positive. And the standard protocol in allopathic medicine is just hook you up to antibiotics and give you anywhere from one to three rounds of antibiotics.

Jodie Meschuk: [00:11:00] while you are in labor delivering your child. So that was me. I was group B positive, did not know that I could reverse it on my own, did not know that I could decline the test. Mothers, you need to understand that you are in control of your body, and your birth, and your pregnancy, and you can say no at any time to anything, even the stupid orange drink.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: How did you reverse your group, or how could you reverse your group B strep?

Jodie Meschuk: Very simple. It's honestly, number one is you can decline the test because the the metrics in terms of what they say is the danger is actually faulty science and faulty research, which we see across the board in anything that they're trying to get women to do in terms of things like, traditional testing also vaccines.

Jodie Meschuk: We know that's just 100 percent faulty science across the board. So first of all, the science behind Group B strep is faulty. Second of all, you can just put a probiotic [00:12:00] up your vagina. As simple as that. Literally, you start recolonizing the vagina. And with probiotics and not doing a douche, but probiotics and eating healthy is a big part of it.

Jodie Meschuk: Just building your terrain, right? Remember the germ is not the enemy. It's the terrain that matters. So it's actually very easy to reverse it, but also you have the ability to decline not only the test, but you can also decline antibiotics. And the reason why the antibiotics are a concern during birth and what happened to me is.

Jodie Meschuk: I'm hooked up to antibiotics. Here comes my baby through the birth canal. So exciting. But guess what? That baby has a permeable leaky gut. In fact, a lot of women and parents don't realize that the baby is actually born with a leaky gut. So that means anything that they are exposed to is going to cause.

Jodie Meschuk: An increased ability to cause damage in the body. Okay, both from, think about vaccines, think about the iGOOP, think about [00:13:00] the baby wash with toxins that they wash the baby in right away. And then think about the fact that most babies, if they are born C section, actually all babies who are born C section, Never ever get colonization from the mother's bacteria.

Jodie Meschuk: So as the baby's coming through the birth canal, if I took antibiotics, it wipes out every bit of colonization that my baby is going to be exposed to coming through the birth canal. So now they're born with a leaky gut. with no natural colonization from the mother. That's the issue because now this baby has entered the world and what happens is they're either set on a path of conventional medicine, which is inject them with a hepatitis B immediately within hours of birth, which by the way, most people don't realize also there's going to be a lot of most people don't realize in this is that hep B.

Jodie Meschuk: What baby is sexually active? Please tell me what baby is sexually active. I hope to the Lord that they are not, or there's not some issues there, [00:14:00] right? But the Hep B is designed basically for people who are drug addicts or sexually promiscuous. And so instead of testing mothers who are in that category of vulnerable, like they come into the hospital, they're a drug addict, or they're sexually promiscuous, test them to see if they need to get the hep B shot.

Jodie Meschuk: No, they just do it for everybody because it's just easier. And it's a huge moneymaker. It's billions of dollars just to pump hep B into these babies who are not susceptible, who have no chance of getting hepatitis B. And so that's the first assault. on the baby. Second assault is obviously the eye goop, the antibiotic eye goop.

Jodie Meschuk: Why are we doing that? They should be getting colonization from the mother's womb when they come out. And the third assault is the baby wash. Johnson and Johnson, boy, they make billions of dollars putting their products into hospitals that are full of endocrine disruptors and full of toxins that again, interact [00:15:00] with the baby's gut.

Jodie Meschuk: And can often start that process right away of baby acne, eczema, gut issues, reflux, all of those things. So all that together is your standard American birth. But by the way, we didn't even talk about Pitocin because how many times do women, they're laying there laboring and oh, you're just not progressing.

Jodie Meschuk: Let's give you some Pitocin. There's a huge fallout to taking Pitocin and to having an epidural. So all these things, you just need to weigh, you have to critically think about them. And I do speak about those in a lot of my things that I do via my books or via the Warrior Center that I have. So this was my son's journey.

Jodie Meschuk: This was his journey was the standard American birth and he got every single one of those assaults because I didn't know any better. And when I did try to start asking questions. I was gaslighted from the very beginning. So when I asked the pediatrician, Hey, is it possible that we could [00:16:00] delay the schedule?

Jodie Meschuk: I was met with you can't come to this practice at all. If you don't vaccinate according to the schedule, there was no conversation. There was no, Hey, can you imagine if a mother sat down with a pediatrician? And said their concerns and the pediatrician came back and said, tell me more.

Jodie Meschuk: Can you imagine if that were to actually happen? It would be a whole different ball game, right? But that doesn't happen. You're met with, if you don't follow these rules, you are not going to be allowed to come here. Now, I personally believe everybody would be better off not going to all checks at all.

Jodie Meschuk: They're totally ridiculous. And they're just a trap to get your child vaccinated. And you have every ability to be Dr. Mom at home. You have every ability to be that, but we get. Trapped in the system of fear and we no woman. No, especially women men are a little bit different. They're wired differently I always tell people bring your husband with you to the visits because you are both wired Differently and if you really are gonna go to a well check you need to go with an army behind [00:17:00] you Because they will gaslight you and they will take advantage of you in the very beginning, this is, this was my son's journey.

Jodie Meschuk: So I look back and I go how did this autism start? How did we get to this point where he was now given that diagnosis or he actually started to show signs at 14, 15 months? Let's go through that first year of life. So he had those assaults at a newborn, as a newborn. Then we start into the system of well visits.

Jodie Meschuk: I was actually. I will say lucky that the first pediatrician that we went to for about six months was giving me the ability to delay his vaccinations. And so that's what I would do is I would go in and I would get one and I would go back a few weeks later and get another one. I actually believe that played into his autism not being as severe initially as it could have been because most children when they go in for those well checks, they are getting eight to [00:18:00] nine to 10 to 11 to 12 vaccines at one time.

Jodie Meschuk: It is actually very common for a child to get nine vaccines in one visit and the mother doesn't even realize it because they're just poking them and they're told this is what's going to save your baby. Maybe if they get Chickenpox, they're going to die. That's literally what they're told. Which, nothing could be further from the truth.

Jodie Meschuk: Because we know the role that measles, chickenpox, many of these diseases, actually are cancer protective when you acquire them naturally. But they don't want to tell you that. So we go throughout his first year of life and he's getting these vaccines little by little, but then all of a sudden the ear infections start to creep in.

Jodie Meschuk: I was having some difficulty nursing. I wanted so much to nurse, to breastfeed, it was, it's emotional. It's a very emotional process that I think obviously is not talked about enough in terms of having solutions for that. And so as I was trying to nurse, I was also supplementing with formula.[00:19:00]

Jodie Meschuk: Albeit, I did choose organic, but it was still milk based and milk and dairy, cow's dairy will actually increase the opportunity for ear infections. It increases mucus in the body, but I didn't connect those dots. I didn't think about that. So here come the ear infections. Now here come the constant rounds of antibiotics because you're not told that you can reverse ear infections naturally.

Jodie Meschuk: Also ear infections aren't typically bacteria. They're not typically bacterial, so it doesn't matter the antibiotic. And so they're just dosing out these antibiotics for every single ear infection that's not really an infection at all. And now the immune system is getting more suppressed and more suppressed.

Jodie Meschuk: So you can see how this cycle goes, right? And this is a cycle that so many parents find themselves in and they just don't know what to do, which is the vaccine. Now the immune system has to try to respond to that, but you have a whole host of toxins within those vaccines, like formaldehyde.

Jodie Meschuk: Polysorbate 80, aborted fetal tissue, aluminum, [00:20:00] all of those things, nobody would inject into their child singly. So why are we injecting it in a vaccine? That's what's so interesting to me is the thought process is nobody would ever purposely inject formaldehyde into their baby or aluminum, but you are when you're taking a vaccine.

Jodie Meschuk: And so then the ear infections, because the immune system is basically freaking out and not knowing what to do. So then you get the antibiotics and it's just this constant cycle that keeps perpetuating itself. We get into about his first year of life, 13 months, 12, 13 months. We'd already been kicked out of two pediatric practices because I finally started to wake up a little bit and go, this isn't right.

Jodie Meschuk: My child is not... healthy. I keep taking my child to you. My child keeps getting sick. What is the problem with this? And so I said, we're not vaccinating anymore. Got kicked out of a practice, got kicked out of another practice. Finally went to another [00:21:00] practice that was recommended in the area and had a good conversation with that pediatrician.

Jodie Meschuk: He was okay with me delaying for a bit. And so that was fine because I still felt as though I didn't have the confidence to stand on my own two feet. And we went in for his 13, 14 month visit. The, this was the turning point. Okay. So this is like. The straw that broke the camel's back of our story.

Jodie Meschuk: So already my son is handicapped in a way with his immune system and the assaults that he's had in his body. We're still trying to fight our way out of that, but I am getting a little bit smarter. But I go in for that appointment and I'm very pregnant with our second son. So I'm at that time, maybe seven months pregnant.

Jodie Meschuk: I go in. And we check in and I was told that the regular doctor that we had made a relationship with was not there and it would be the on call pediatrician. So here I am sitting in the waiting room and this is where I cannot stress enough to mothers [00:22:00] that your intuition has been given to you as a gift by God.

Jodie Meschuk: The most important thing that we could ever do is listen to our intuition, and mothers don't listen to it. Women, we don't listen to it, and you've got to listen to your intuition. It will never steer you wrong. So I'm sitting in that office, everything in my body... Think of like you're in fight and flight and you're paralyzed, right?

Jodie Meschuk: This is what fight and flight does. We either think in an emergency standpoint and do something, or we freeze. And I froze. Here I am, frozen in the waiting room. Everything in my body was saying, pick up your child and leave and come back. Pick up your child and leave and come back. But for whatever reason, I didn't.

Jodie Meschuk: I don't know. To this day, for whatever reason, I didn't. And so I go into that office, cold white walls. Nurse comes in, does her little initial checkup. Still my body is frozen. And everything is telling me to walk out. Then the pediatrician comes in. I begin to [00:23:00] ask him questions because he said, He basically looks at the chart.

Jodie Meschuk: Right? And he goes, So it looks like he's really behind on his vaccines. We need to catch him up today. Because if you don't, your child will die of a disease. That's basically what he said to me. And I said, what do you mean? Yeah, I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean he needs to catch up? What does that mean?

Jodie Meschuk: He goes he's behind on this one, and this one, and you know we By the way, we have an epidemic of measles going on right now. They always like to throw that in there. An epidemic of one child that really, hey, once again, measles is very important to our immune system. So throwing all this stuff at me to guilt me.

Jodie Meschuk: And I said to him, I said, because by this time I'm sweating. right? So I'm frozen, but I'm sweating. And here my child is sitting on the table. He's already a mess. I just really wasn't at a place to admit the full mess that he was in terms of his body and his system, because I think I was also in self preservation a little bit.[00:24:00]

Jodie Meschuk: And he said, I said to him, I asked him, would you give your child all of these vaccines? Because basically what he listed out was nine vaccines. 3 in 1, 3 in 1, 3 separate ones. This is what parents don't understand. Your 3 in 1 vaccine is not 1 vaccine. You are injecting your child with 3. So if it's a 3 in 1, a 3 in 1, that is 6.

Jodie Meschuk: And then you add on three other single ones, that is nine. And that happens every day in this country in a pediatrician's office. Every single day it happens. And I asked him, you're telling me you would be comfortable giving your child nine vaccines. Oh, without a doubt, is what he said. Without a doubt, I would have no hesitation.

Jodie Meschuk: Vaccines are completely safe. Stop listening to the pseudoscience, stop Googling, just basically shame and gaslighting me to the point where I'm literally frozen and [00:25:00] I am sweating bullets. And then he proceeds to say, if you don't do this, I will be forced to call child protective services for you.

Jodie Meschuk: Not this is one of the

Jodie Meschuk: reasons why parents. Cave to the system is because they are guilted and shamed and gaslighted at every turn and they have no idea the power that they have within them to say no. To walk away. I'm sorry, measles is not going to kill your child. If it does. You were talking about a massive outlier situation where that child probably had a gazillion underlying root causes, but we have gone from a place of revering disease and the, and what it can do to help the body to fearing every single germ that comes along.

Jodie Meschuk: And we can thank COVID a lot for that too, right? We also can thank COVID and that whole pandemic for helping to wake [00:26:00] up some people who are willing to wake up because that's a choice.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: I woke up because of COVID. I was often like that pediatrician. Maybe not huge catch up schedules like that, but I'd encourage him.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: I thought, yeah, this is good. This is what we do. This is, it was how the system was designed to make doctors think that this is good. And to not do it is you're to be ridiculed if you're, if you don't encourage it.

Jodie Meschuk: Thank you for admitting that because that is so true, right? And I'm always, I do obviously specialize in naturopathic medicine and different things like that, which I got into that whole field because of my son.

Jodie Meschuk: I mean it never would have been something that would have been on my radar. I was totally a, like I work for corporate, I love the system is there to save us. And now I'm the total opposite, get out of the system. Anyway, so there I am in the office. And he's saying this to me, and I just...

Jodie Meschuk: I just freeze. I literally just freeze. And then he leaves. And as the nurse is the one that comes in with the vials on the tray and does it. [00:27:00] Oh no, the pediatrician never does it. They don't want blood on their hands. So the nurse comes in and does it. And I just watched her. Literally, I felt like I was in the twilight zone.

Jodie Meschuk: I just, it was like boom. And my son is screaming and crying. Now here's, this is very important for parents to understand, especially when it comes to this conversation of Jody, it is, it has been debunked. That vaccines cause autism. So tell me how this is possible whether it's obviously as you know There's a lot of ways that the body works and there's a lot of entry points and there's a lot of assaults that can happen But I want parents to think about this for one second.

Jodie Meschuk: Imagine your baby that is laying on that table Now your baby has an innate ability in them to feel fight and flight That is a part of the human body. What a baby or a toddler cannot do is raise their hand and say, Mommy, I'm in fear. Raise their hand and say, [00:28:00] Mommy, I'm scared. They don't have the ability to do that.

Jodie Meschuk: So they scream and they cry. And there's a very different scream of fear versus the scream of I'm hungry or the cry of I'm hungry. So when you have a child on that table, they don't know what's coming at them. They're scared. What happens when the body is scared in fight and flight? There's actually a little mechanism in the brain that opens up especially at that young age of infancy and toddlerhood now That part of the brain opens up because it's in fight and flight We inject, or they are injected, with aluminum, polysorbate 80, formaldehyde.

Jodie Meschuk: But let's just take aluminum, because it's a heavy metal, that we know is a neurotoxin, and causes brain toxicity. If they're screaming it in fight and flight, And you go and you inject that aluminum, which is supposed to pool at the site, right? That's what they [00:29:00] say is, oh, the aluminum just helps to enhance the antibodies, helps to spur the immune system so that the immune system can now recognize these antibodies and start to spur a response to it.

Jodie Meschuk: It's supposed to be a kind of an activator. Where does that aluminum go? Potentially, where can it travel into the blood into the brain and under fight and flight? With that screaming baby. And that brain is much more open than normal. Where do we think the aluminum goes? So now it goes to the brain and you do that over and over again.

Jodie Meschuk: And it's a bioaccumulation that one shot may not do it. That third shot might do it. That fifth shot might do it. That 10th shot might do it. We see autism pop up. at around age two. And we've always asked Western Medicine, so can you explain to me why it pops up at age two? Magically. We have better diagnostic now.

Jodie Meschuk: We have better testing. [00:30:00] That's just when kids start to develop and talk and so we can see markers of it more. Oh no. How many shots do you think a child has had by that point up to age two? Bioaccumulation. So it may happen earlier for a child, depending on the ability of their body to detox or how strong their body is.

Jodie Meschuk: It may happen at that MMR shot at 12 months old. Because they've had so many assaults to their system and their brain is collecting the aluminum over and over again. And once that aluminum is in the brain, it's very difficult to get out. If you look at side by side, the symptoms of mercury or aluminum toxicity and what is seen to be as autism, they mirror each other with symptoms.

Jodie Meschuk: They mirror each other with what a child outwardly is showing. So that was basically art. What happened is I stood there and I can actually now tell the story without crying my face off [00:31:00] because I would love to give anything in my life to go back to that moment and walk out of that office. I would give anything in my life to do that, but that is now a part of our story and I will not let my son's story die in vain.

Jodie Meschuk: I will not let it because there's too many babies to save. There's too many parents that just don't understand that are willing and ready to listen. And there's parents that aren't willing and ready to listen. And that's their choice, but I will not let his story die in vain. So it happened. I'm crying as I leave the office.

Jodie Meschuk: Nobody said, are you okay? Nobody said I'm sorry. Nobody said anything. It's just, it's cattle. You go in and you go out. You go in and you go out. They do not care about you. There are very few pediatricians that do, and that's great if you find them. We drove home. We were actually on the way to the park because we were going to have a play date with some other mom friends of mine, and he is screaming in [00:32:00] the back.

Jodie Meschuk: He is the most high pitched scream I've ever heard in my life. And at the time, I did not know that it was encephalitis, but if you hear that high pitched scream, that brain is on fire and it is on fire from what is in those vaccines. So we go to the park, I'm crying my face off. My girls are trying to make me feel better.

Jodie Meschuk: He'll be okay. We'll pray all these things, right? We get home. He didn't stop crying for hours on end. He never stopped all night long. So then I called the pediatrician's office and what am I told? Just give him Tylenol and Motrin and rotate it. It's normal. It's not normal. Oh, no, my friend. It is not normal.

Jodie Meschuk: And the minute that you dose that Tylenol, you completely wipe out their body's defense system of glutathione to maybe, hopefully, correct some of that damage. Which, by the way, he was, it was too far gone. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. But I gave him the Tylenol, which further depleted his [00:33:00] glutathione, and within days, he lost all the words he had.

Jodie Meschuk: Within a couple weeks, he was banging his head against the wall. He was not there. It was as if he just went into his own little world. And that was basically the start of a whole new path for us.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Thank you so much for sharing that, that heart wrenching story. Wow. So now let's get to the hope part of it.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Let's, tell me what things you discovered to, to reverse some of these, some or all of these symptoms.

Jodie Meschuk: And I do want parents to understand that there is hope. Like my platform and what I do is not only from a standpoint of you can Set your family up to be out of the system and to not even have to deal with this stuff Prevention like actual true prevention to me Prevention is here [00:34:00] Prevention is having the knowledge of what you're doing and the knowledge of why you're not choosing something.

Jodie Meschuk: To me, prevention is standing in your power as a mother. And I just want people to know that if you are in a place of just thinking about having, starting a family, or you are pregnant right now, You have every right to choose things that will alter the course and path of your family and your child forever.

Jodie Meschuk: But the sad part is we are in a place right now where the autism numbers and chronic illness across the board is skyrocketing and it's an epidemic. And so we have to have hope and parents need to understand that even if you've gone to this place where we went Where lost my child completely gone. I he could have died actually in this day and age 15 years later, it is never lost on me in a single day that I could have [00:35:00] lost my child that night.

Jodie Meschuk: He could have died. And we see that happen all the time. You guys, SIDS? SIDS is not random. SIDS is 100 percent vaccine induced. 100%. I could have lost my child. And there's many parents who do go through that. But if you find yourself in this I'll just call it a crossroads, where you've been given a diagnosis, Or your child is, you see these red flags and you're not sure.

Jodie Meschuk: You have to first have hope and belief that the body knows how to heal. Now that is going to be different on a wide spectrum, so to speak, for all children because there's a myriad of factors that are there. But I truly believe every person's body has the ability to heal and thrive. And especially especially when we look at this epidemic of autism.

Jodie Meschuk: I will say the earlier that you can start to intervene, the better because their body and their brain is more malleable, but [00:36:00] that does not mean that I have not seen kids at older ages and even adults heal because I have seen that as well. So when this first occurred and I detail, again, I detail more of this out in my book, but basically I had a friend in my life who was very courageous and she called me up one day and said, Jody.

Jodie Meschuk: I see these things in your son, I really think that you need to go get him tested. Now here's the thing is, if she wouldn't have called me that day and risked our friendship, I would have never actually gone and gotten him tested because all the things coming in from the outside were, he's fine, he'll grow out of it, everything's okay.

Jodie Meschuk: You have to listen to your intuition. My intuition said, no, he's not. Okay. There is something that happened and I knew inside of me, it was the vaccines. I knew that I knew it was the antibiotic use. I knew it was everything that occurred in his first life. And then those nine shots were just. Basically the gun that went off [00:37:00] you load the gun and that's the trigger So I went and I got him tested He and actually ironically The day that he had his testing I went into labor.

Jodie Meschuk: So this is all a very quick process. This was all within a couple months that this occurred. And so I went into labor with my second son. So my parents actually had to take my other son to get his testing, which ended up being a good thing because they were able to see it with their own eyes and be able to accept What I had been saying for so long.

Jodie Meschuk: So now we have this. Hey, your son has this thing. There's nothing we can do for you except therapy. And that's basically the options that parents are given. So I knew that he needed to get into therapy. I have nothing against therapy. I do think you need to be careful which therapy you're doing, but we got him into therapy immediately.

Jodie Meschuk: And then I started the researching and I'm gonna tell you there is nothing Like a mama bear on a mission, there is nothing. [00:38:00] I spent hours at my computer Googling, and this was before Google censored literally everything. And I was searching, and searching. And the one thing that I kept coming back to was gut health.

Jodie Meschuk: I knew that at the end of the day, everything that was in my home, everything that we did as parents, was within my control. It was at that point that I finally realized I have control. Why have I been giving away my power all this time? And so I started with his gut. I didn't need to go to a doctor. I didn't need to have anybody prescribe anything.

Jodie Meschuk: I could change his diet and what we were using in our home within my own control. So that's really where I started was we got him into therapy right away. He was going for six to eight hours a day. We basically lived out of our car. I would take my newborn. I would, be having him in therapy the whole time.

Jodie Meschuk: Or we'd go for a walk or I drop them off at my parents. And basically this was our life. Our life was in therapy between [00:39:00] OT and PT and speech. And we did neural feedback and cranial sacral and all of. These things that I was just like, I don't have time. I need to heal my son. I don't have time. And that was my mission.

Jodie Meschuk: And that is the place that mothers need to root into is you have got to do this and do it now. Forget the noise. Forget the haters, forget somebody in your family who doesn't understand, do it, because you are the one that's going to be up with your child at 2 a. m. Not a pediatrician is going to come to your rescue, right?

Jodie Meschuk: And they're not going to apologize for what they did, by the way. They'll never apologize. This is what we did right away, is I was like, we've got to change his diet, I've got to get him off gluten, I've got to get him off dairy. And then fast forward, maybe, it was probably about three weeks after I got him into therapy, and I thought to myself, Okay.

Jodie Meschuk: Maybe I should have a neurologist see him because I needed to get more therapy and back then I had to manipulate the system a little bit and go to my [00:40:00] insurance company and say, Hey, this doctor is prescribing more speech therapy and I had to be the squeaky wheel to keep getting more hours and more hours.

Jodie Meschuk: Today, I will tell parents, I really caution you against getting the diagnosis. You don't need anything on paper to know that you have a child that needs help and that you can do things for him. You don't need to necessarily have anything on paper. And so just be really cautious with that. But I did make the appointment with this neurologist who was known as the most, popular, good neurologist in California at the time.

Jodie Meschuk: Of course, I wanted the best for my child. Of course, I went to the best, right? And here we go in for the appointment. I've got my newborn. And I've got my oldest son. And we go in, and at the time, he was just creeping up on about age two at the time. And she does her testing, and I'm watching through the two way, mirror there and seeing what she's doing.

Jodie Meschuk: And he wanted nothing to do with her, by the way. I do think our children will tell us. Very much what [00:41:00] they like and what they don't like if we're looking for those cues. He wanted nothing to do with her. So she did her testing. I could tell it wasn't going well. I had this sinking feeling in my gut like, Alright he really does have this diagnosis.

Jodie Meschuk: What are we gonna do now? So we go to her office. We sit down. He's having a hard time, obviously, even just sitting down. And I've got my newborn baby. And I ask her some questions and I say, Hey, Doc. I won't give her name, but she really should lose her license at this point. And I said, Hey doctor, I've been researching all of this stuff about how you can heal autism, how you can do things like fix the gut.

Jodie Meschuk: And she said, I'm going to stop you right there. Don't listen to that quack science. She said that none of that works. She said, listen, I have two boys with autism. I'm going to tell you right now. It doesn't work. First of all, maybe you should go to another neurologist if that's the case. If you find that you're going to a neurologist that doesn't even believe that you can do anything.

Jodie Meschuk: And she said, don't even listen to that. That's garbage. There [00:42:00] is nothing you're gonna be able to do for your son. In fact, you should get ready to institutionalize him by the time he's 18. I just want to prepare you that he's gonna need to be institutionalized. He's two.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Wow, talking about stealing hope.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: It's not a doctor's position to steal hope.

Jodie Meschuk: But that's what a doctor does every day in this country. That's what they do. And so she said that to me, it gets better. Then she pointed at my newborn son and said, autism is genetic. You should probably be prepared that he's going to get diagnosed too.

Jodie Meschuk: He was like a month old. Then she pointed at my belly and said, you should really consider not having any more children.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: I would be so livid. I am livid. I'm not even there, and that was years ago. My goodness.

Jodie Meschuk: But here's the thing, is that's what I needed. I actually [00:43:00] needed that. Now I am a I'm, I believe in Jesus. I believe in divine intervention. I truly believe that God does not give us more than we can handle. And it has taken me a long time to come to that place, because I was very angry at God for a little while.

Jodie Meschuk: I was very angry at him. And I just truly believe that appointment was divine intervention for her to say that to me and for me to go watch me heal him. So I left that office crying, driving home, like literal, I was like this on the steering wheel, just so angry. But here's what you have to do, is you have a choice.

Jodie Meschuk: This is what happens, is parents will either turn anger into, there's nothing I can do, and just feel defeated. And I call this the camp of misery loves company, I detail this out in my book. The camp of misery loves company is the most [00:44:00] destructive place that you can be. It is the most destructive place you can find yourself.

Jodie Meschuk: And you take any diagnosis, I want you to just go to Facebook and search autoimmune diabetes. Heart disease, heart attack whatever it is, you name it, the label, there is a Facebook group that want you to feel like you're not alone and that there's nothing you can do. This is the Camp of Misery Love Company.

Jodie Meschuk: And this is prominent in the autism community because I've been in those pages before where I've commented like, Hey, have you considered like what he's eating? And I get deleted just by saying, have you considered what they're eating? You guys, human beings. Want self preservation. They don't want to know that they did something wrong, that the actions that they did could have contributed to something, and they sure as hell don't want to take personal responsibility because it's so much easier to sit in the camp of misery loves company.

Jodie Meschuk: The other choice. is you take your control [00:45:00] back. Now, this is why so many parents I believe a lot of parents don't go this route, where you take your anger and you transmute it into action and hope. Because it's harder. It's harder. If I go and I change my child's diet, which we did at the time, he was eating McDonald's chicken nuggets and yogurt.

Jodie Meschuk: Those were the two foods he was eating and that was it. McDonald's chicken nuggets and yogurt. Two of the worst things that you could ever give kids, right? But I felt like I had to because he wasn't eating. If I tried to offer him something else, he would cry and scream and have a fit and meltdown until I'd go I don't want to deprive my child of food.

Jodie Meschuk: Okay, we'll just go get the McDonald's chicken nuggets. That's easier. What's harder is working through the absolute meltdown of that child detoxing from gluten and dairy, caseomorphines and gluteomorphines, which act like frickin cocaine in the brain. Do you know how hard that is to weather a child coming off [00:46:00] of that?

Jodie Meschuk: But let me tell you, the other side of that is hope and beauty and healing. But that's where parents quit. They tap out and they go, I can't do this. I can't watch my child scream and cry. Would you rather have your child screaming and crying because they're locked within their own body? And they have heavy metal toxicity.

Jodie Meschuk: Or, would you rather go through a week of screaming and crying, Oh, but now they just detoxed off of this drug that they were on in their brain. And now, they're talking. And now they're self regulating. And now they're sleeping. And now they're smiling. And now they have eye contact. Which road would you rather have?

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: One thing that I do for our kids, and I encourage other people to do, is we talk about foods as either weak foods or strong foods. And this is great for adults too, because a weak food, you eat more weak food, what is it going to do? If you are what you eat, you become weak. Who wants to be weak? And there's strong foods.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: And for us, anything that's a strong food [00:47:00] is anything from an animal. Anything that's weak is any processed food and all vegetables. And fruit's kind of in the middle. You can have fruit, doesn't really matter. But we say, you need to eat more strong food than weak food, so that you can continue to get strong.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: And what that does is it helps that relationship with food, so they're not like, oh I want to eat this and I'll treat myself, I'll reward myself with this weak food. No. You can have some weak food, but we gotta eat more strong food so that we stay strong. And when you start to do that, then you can start to see, Oh, after you...

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: And you can have these conversations with your children. Oh, you had a meltdown after you ate this weak food. It's either one of two things. You're throwing a tantrum, and you can control it, and you need to. Or, you can't control it because you just, ten minutes ago, ate that weak food. And, to help you, I'm going to be a good parent and have you eat less weak food.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Just if there was a giant meat cleaver, and the child was screaming and crying because he wanted to play with it, I would say, no, it's dangerous for you to play with that. Weak food can be dangerous as well. [00:48:00]

Jodie Meschuk: Yeah, absolutely. And that's a great, I love that. I think it's incredibly important to understand in this autism conversation, but I actually call it the four A's, which is not new.

Jodie Meschuk: It's not a new concept to call it the four A's, but you have this epidemic of, autism, ADHD, allergies, and asthma. Now you can also put, of course, other things in there because we see the epidemic of obesity in kids, the epidemic of diabetes, all of these things, right? And so when you're looking at the four A's, All of them have the same undercurrent or root, which is the gut.

Jodie Meschuk: So when you go through that process of healing the gut, you have to take that gut almost back to a stage of infancy. And this is why and I'll just give this little nugget for your audience. In my personal, sorry my dogs are barking all of a sudden, in my personal opinion, the GAPS diet, which is the Gut and Psychology Syndrome, is the gold standard.

Jodie Meschuk: So what that means is, [00:49:00] what the GAPS diet is doing, we implemented this very quickly with my son, is you are taking their gut back to that stage of permeable gut in, like in infancy, and you are resealing it. Now, when you reseal that gut, and you take away the triggers you take away all the things that are assaulting the body, which, The most common is going to be gluten.

Jodie Meschuk: Gluten's not necessarily always the problem. The problem is, almost 99. 9 percent of gluten in this country is hybridized. So that means it's full of glyphosate and it's the wrong chromosomes. If babies... We're to skip that stage that every baby seems to go through in this country where it's super cute and fun six months and start To introduce baby cereal that's full of all these chemicals that's literally the first thing that they're getting is hybridized wheat not to mention if they were on formula And had dairy.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: You know it's interesting, so through all my troubles and trials and tribulations, I get ridiculed for saying that [00:50:00] we should feed our children strong foods or meat, animal based products. And it's interesting, because in Canada, they say some of the first things that you should introduce at 6 months old is eggs, liver, meat.

Jodie Meschuk: Yeah, absolutely. And you look at other countries, really, it is creeping into other countries, which you'll notice, like even in Canada. There's obviously a lot of things that have crept into there that are very U. S. based, poor, like sad, the sad diet, the standard American diet. And you can just see the fallout beginning to happen in other countries that are adopting this is that you begin to see their rates of autism and other, the four A's creeping up.

Jodie Meschuk: You begin to see their rates of obesity in children, early puberty in girls. I am so passionate and on a, basically it's something I'm talking about a lot right now on my own social media. It is not okay that girls start to menstruate at nine. That is not normal. It might be common, but that is not normal.

Jodie Meschuk: And that is completely [00:51:00] indicative of eating poor quality meat full of hormones and birth control residual from the water and the soil because what are women doing is peeing out the birth control all the time and xenoestrogens from fragrance and toxic products. And then, you have, again, just this umbrella of toxicity around them that is causing all this hormone and endocrine disruption.

Jodie Meschuk: But anyways, all the things that are common right now, be very careful of how you see that they are normalized. And they are normalized to make you feel like you, you did nothing wrong. And that it's genetic. There are very few things that are actually genetic. In fact 0. 01% It's actually genetic in things.

Jodie Meschuk: So we just have to, with the GAPS diet, I just want to throw that little nugget out for people. If you're in this place of where do I start is start with food. You don't have to go to a doctor for that. In fact, you're probably going to go through this entire healing [00:52:00] process without a doctor, like without an allopathic doctor, because they're going to just laugh at you the whole way.

Jodie Meschuk: So much of it you're doing on your own within your own home, and you have every ability to do that, but that's really where we started to see, we did a lot of things for my son, again, I detail it out in my book, but starting with food, healing the gut is the number one place to start, you have to stop the toxicity, you have to turn the tap off, you have to stop vaccinating, I'm sorry to say it, but there is no if, ands, or buts about it, don't, in my personal opinion, do not vaccinate.

Jodie Meschuk: At all. There's no need for it.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: One of the things that I wish I could go back and do over again is go back and give give my kids no vaccines. I wish I could go back and do that because it's what I've learned now. But there are things that are in my control and my kids have not been visibly injured by it.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Thank the good lord. But there's toxins every day around us. There's toxins that we clean our house with. There's toxins in our air fresheners. There's [00:53:00] toxins in the things that we wash our clothes with. There's in the foods that we eat. We're just surrounded by all of these toxins that affect our endocrine system.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Even plants have phytoestrogen. Chemicals that look and act like... Estrogen in plants. Soy is one of the biggest, culprits of this. And it's like, why would I want to give my son or my daughter more estrogen? I don't want to give it to myself or my wife. So these are the things that you have to look at the environment that we live in and that we're exposing ourselves to and take control where you have the ability to take control.

Jodie Meschuk: 100%. And just like you said, in the beginning of what did that look like to heal your child? You have to have hope, the amount of times that I speak with mothers. And their confidence is so low because they have given their power away for so long that they don't really know what it feels like to take that back and to listen to their intuition.

Jodie Meschuk: And so you have to practice that every day. Like right now, maybe in Canada too, [00:54:00] it's the back to school season. So the biggest stressor a lot of times for mothers is well, what do I do about vaccines now, especially think about if you live in a state like California or New York, where they make it appear and seem like you better follow the rules or you're not going to be able to go to school.

Jodie Meschuk: What does it feel like to listen to your intuition and to practice that is a perfect time to start is by going. No, I am not going to vaccinate my child. How am I going to navigate this system? Sometimes that's an outward thing. Sometimes that's an inward thing where you're just flying under the radar and keeping it to yourself.

Jodie Meschuk: You have to decide what works for your family. I can't tell you how to listen to your intuition. All I can say is you have one. You have to practice listening to it every day by doing the action piece every day. Even something as little as when your child gets sick. Practice not fearing the fever. That the fever is the answer.

Jodie Meschuk: The fever is the solution. Practice what do you do when a fever happens. Not go run to the Tylenol because I'm [00:55:00] scared of the fever. It's Educate myself on what the fever does and the purpose of it and have the things in my home, fill your home with your doctor, mom toolkit. So you don't feel like you have to run to the system to save you.

Jodie Meschuk: So you've got to practice that muscle every day.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Kind of along those lines, there's this book called The Gift of Fear, and another book in that kind of series is Protecting the Gift, and I encourage, especially parents, to read Protecting the Gift, but in The Gift of Fear it's not fear like, oh, I'm afraid that something bad's gonna happen it's that intuition that you've seen these Cues throughout your life, and you don't always understand them, but you have this innate sense of, I'm going to die in this situation, I need to remove myself from this situation immediately.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: And it's getting you to able to listen to that, and protecting the gift, the children are the gift. And it's that same idea of, you recognize these patterns in certain situations, and you listen to that's what the intuition is. And you remove yourself and your child from those situations, so that you don't risk [00:56:00] your life or their life.

Jodie Meschuk: Absolutely, that's why I tell parents, listen, if it's stressful for you to go into a well check, why are you going? Why are you going? Why would you put yourself in the line of fire? Just don't. And now that starts the process of, do I even need to go to a well check? Why am I going? What's the purpose?

Jodie Meschuk: You have to start down that line of questioning in order to be able to get to the answer.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Where can people get your book?

Jodie Meschuk: There is my Autism Reimagined book, which you can just find on Amazon. It's called Autism Reimagined. It's also available in audio and Spanish, both printed and audible. You can go to my website, thewarriorcenter. com and be able to purchase it there directly as well.

Jodie Meschuk: If it's international, just purchase directly from me because Amazon can be tricky about that. And then also, I do have the Warrior Center, which I set up as basically a place for me to help parents and walk [00:57:00] them through this process. I have courses in there, I have my autism reversal course in there, I have loads of other things in there that parents can use and especially mothers can use to help equip them and listen to their intuition and really become Dr.

Jodie Meschuk: Mom. I am on Instagram at the Warrior Center. And yeah, Facebook too very easy to connect with me.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: I'm just writing these down right now, because I'm going to put them in the link below, so that people can easily click on these.

Jodie Meschuk: Yeah, thank you

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: thank you so much for the, giving me your time but giving people hope.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Because... I believe that's what we're called to do here is not take hope and not give false hope, but give real hope, allow people to see that there is hope in the future and that things can work for the good of those who love God. And it seems that you're a fellow believer and I truly appreciate that and been able to get past those barriers that, that the evil ones put up to keep us from living the life that God designed us to live.

Jodie Meschuk: Absolutely. A hundred percent. Thank you for [00:58:00] inviting me on and hopefully this will inspire some people who need to hear this message and just know that, I often say hope is the greatest natural drug ever because it really is like the cornerstone to everything. The minute that we lose our hope and belief, then we are very easily controlled.

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: Thank you so much and God bless.

Jodie Meschuk: Thank you. Just

Dr. Sam SIgoloff: a reminder for everyone out there, duty uniform of the day, the full armor of God. Let's all make courage more contagious than fear.

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