113. Ted and Mara Macie
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Mara Macie: And those uniparty politics are why we don't see anything get done in our country, right from the local levels all the way to the national levels. The reason that we couldn't get a response from our congresspeople when we were reaching out to them about these mandates was because they all guard each other and they all guard their special interest groups and their lobbyists.

Mara Macie: They can't go against those people. That's why we have to do more investigation into who's running. for races around us. Because the grassroots candidates, we don't get that leash. We don't get that big sum of money that says, if you don't do our bidding, we don't pay you.

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Dr. Sam Sigoloff: We have Mara and we have Ted. And Ted is a whistleblower. He's been pushing the envelope on what, um, Teresa Long, Dr. Long, Dr. Pete Chambers, and what I have initially brought forward. He's really pushed the envelope and brought a lot of really important information out. Ted, Mara, great to have you on. Thanks, Sam.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thanks for having us. So tell me what you've discovered, and Mara, you have some important information, too, that I believe you're running for an elected [00:04:00] position, is that correct?

Mara Macie: That is correct. Uh, U. S. Congress, District 5 in Florida.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Awesome. So hopefully this can help you get some more support.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: So Ted, tell us what you've found and what you've discovered and what information you want to bring forward.

Ted Macie: All the information's out there, but, um, I believe that getting into more people, doing the podcast with you, um, and, and anyone we can is the most important thing that, uh, we can do. Um, but it's just, it's more of the same.

Ted Macie: Unfortunately, the things that we're, we're finding aren't surprising. Um, I wish there were, but they're not. Uh, and as you know, like we're in touch with Mark, the Shaw and yourself and Teresa and everybody. So we've been, we've been watching it, um, [00:05:00] for since then, 20, early 2022. And I know you guys are doing that before, but, um, it was important to keep an eye on it just because they said everything was fixed and, um, we got to take their word on it.

Ted Macie: So we kept following it and notice some signals and, um, and some of the typical things, some of them, not so much. But, uh, we were actually talking in our kitchen with Mark on speaker one day, and Mara was, she brought up, what about other things that you wouldn't associate with a shot? And we were like, yeah, let's check that out.

Ted Macie: So, um, fortunately I'm still on active duty and all the things that I say are of my own opinion and not the DoD. And, um, so I, I looked in into it, um, and we found that externally caused morbidities such as slips, trips and falls, [00:06:00] um, weather accidents, I forget the exact name of the ICD code, but. Um, things like that were raising like hundreds of percent, which is, uh, a little odd to say the least and everything we look into.

Ted Macie: It just creates more questions than answers. Um, so been on a mission lately to bring it out in the public so that other that we can have more pressure behind it to, um, get some answers, frankly, because it's important. And I, and we, we noticed it anecdotally as well. So the things that we look at kind of match real life.

Ted Macie: Um, and so anybody with a half a brain would, um, probably want to look into that, I would hope. So that's what we're doing now.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: The information that, um, Dr. Long, Dr. Chambers, uh, Mark Beshaw, and myself brought forward, one of the arguments [00:07:00] was, and, and there may be some legitimacy to these complaints, um, that all the information we brought forward, the, the numbers, May have been corrupted and, and this is what the government had said that there was a glitch in the system and that it was not legitimate.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Now, what I claim that the biggest thing is we found the problem. We, we, our numbers may have been off because there may have been a glitch in the system or the glitch may have been, um, on purpose so that it looks like we're, we're wrong. Um, but now that they have allegedly corrected the information, you've been studying this.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Is that correct?

Ted Macie: Yes. Yep. So, um, the 1st, when I 1st went to, uh, bring information to the permanent subcommittee on investigations that was in January, um, Mara and I actually traveled to D. C. because sending emails can only do so much. And, um, being there in person and laying it out and having screenshots and everything printed out, uh, was, uh, [00:08:00] I think vital to get the point across.

Ted Macie: Um, so that's what we did. And, uh, then from there, Senator Johnson wrote a letter to, uh, SecDef's office, and they actually responded six months later. I think it was July. It wasn't quick. Yeah. It took up to July. Um, and surprisingly they, they were like, yep, it's right. So as far as we know, everything's functioning properly.

Ted Macie: And that's a problem because there are plenty of issues in there that we're seeing now.

Mara Macie: Well, it was a lose lose for them. Either admit that you can't get the system right, which taxpayers pay millions of dollars for, or say, we fixed it and that is the correct data. So, you know, it wasn't going to look good for them either way.

Ted Macie: And, uh, as you know, like Unisant [00:09:00] also has the contract for DMED as well as, uh, Medicare, Medicaid, and I believe something else too. So they, they run the show. They, they're quite actually being paid tens of millions of dollars for labor costs. So like in your, in your case, um, with the first whistleblowing, uh, data, they, I just find it hard to believe that they didn't recognize an issue for that long.

Ted Macie: When they have a team with tens of millions of dollars. So everything is just, it's suspect is what it comes down to. Like I was saying, it just raises more questions and gives answers.

Mara Macie: Typical government.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Have you been able to look into Unisent more and find out more about like, where they're incorporated, who owns them, any of that information?

Ted Macie: No, just things that come up in conversation. Yeah, [00:10:00] there's things we know, but I don't want to. Speak about them. There's a, but that's why we're pushing, um, for this to be to have an actual investigation. I mean, it's, it's an uphill battle and dealing with, um, D. C. it's, it's difficult because everybody has a stake in something, or they're afraid to.

Ted Macie: Um, uh, go against whatever the donor may be. I mean, we do a lot of that follow the money type of stuff. And it seems to be, um, the, uh, status quo up there, unfortunately. But that doesn't mean we have to give up or stop because we're not going to. Um, and you know, that's, it's done things such as like Jordan Carr, who was separated, the intel officer, you know her well, um, she ran for a state representative seat after she was [00:11:00] kicked out.

Ted Macie: Like, because we recognize that it's going to start locally. We're not going to change DC from the, from going from DC. It has to start locally. Um, and that's kind of what's been spying these, uh, military people and spouses to. And, you know, hopefully we can do something from, from there.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: So tell me what you learned about this, Mara.

Mara Macie: Well, what I learned, I've always been active in politics in terms of paying attention to what was going on, especially on a national level, a local level is always a little bit different considering. Being a military spouse, you move a lot, so you don't get too involved in what's going on right around you, but you stay focused on what you know is going to [00:12:00] always be there, which is D.

Mara Macie: C. and the federal government, and when this all started, I, I was, I was shocked, to say the least, because it was years of almost, we've been together 20 years now, so it was like 18 years. I was, I was shocked, to say the least, because it was years of almost, we've been together 20 years now, so it was like 18 years.

Mara Macie: of being a part of this community that essentially turned its back on us. And. I couldn't believe that, especially after having just watched what happened with the election, I could not believe that our government wasn't doing anything to help service members. And I thought he was going to get kicked out, and until the injunction went in place in March.

Mara Macie: We were expecting, okay, maybe Ted should run for Congress. Little did we know, um, come March when that injunction happened, he just looks at me and he said, it's not me, it's you. And I jumped into politics full speed ahead. And, um, [00:13:00] we have to say the least, we have made quite an impact locally. And, um, like Ted was saying, we do a lot of follow the money.

Mara Macie: We have gotten involved throughout Florida and we have seen just how corrupt Florida politics are. As a matter of fact, all the attention Ted has been getting over the past couple of days. Uh, with some things that he put out, not one Florida politician will say a word because they don't want to bring any attention to either me or Ted.

Mara Macie: They don't want to gain any followers for me because they have their establishment guy in place, uh, John Rutherford, who gained a lot of national attention when he refused to vote for Jim Jordan for speaker and actually said that he wanted to teach Matt Gaetz a lesson. And, and that, that upset his constituents and he has done that on several occasions where they'll call and they don't get answers or they ask him to do [00:14:00] something specific and he just doesn't listen.

Mara Macie: He doesn't listen because he's part of that network in the, uh, RPOF, the Republican Party of Florida that really They pick who we're going to get to choose from. They pick who the Republican is. They pick, uh, the establishment picks who the Democrat is. And they're, it's kind of a win win for them either way because they get to play good cop, bad cop.

Mara Macie: If you get a Democrat in, the Republican Party of Florida gets to go, Well, we, this is, this is who we have to beat next time. Otherwise, the Republican that they're giving you to choose from. is their candidate, and they're just going to go along with uniparty politics, and those uniparty politics are why we don't see anything get done in our country, right from the local levels all the way to the national levels.

Mara Macie: The reason that we couldn't get a response from our congresspeople when we were reaching out to them about these mandates was because they all guard each other, and they all guard their special interest groups and their lobbyists. They can't go against those people. That's why we have to [00:15:00] do more investigation into who's running.

Mara Macie: for races around us, because the grassroots candidates, we don't get that leash. We don't get that big sum of money that says, if you don't do our bidding, we don't pay you. So people need to be more informed. People need to do their job. You can't just show up for a general election and expect that you're going to be able to elect someone that's going to represent you.

Mara Macie: They're not. You have to go to the primary and you have to vote against.

Ted Macie: It's actually, it's relatively simple once you get the hang of it. Um, like for instance, I'll look into FEC, the federal, uh, campaign donations. I mean, you basically search the candidate and it'll go to their pack. And I call it the, the Establishment Special. It's all the same stuff. BAE Systems, Johnson Johnson, Raytheon.

Ted Macie: So they have the same handlers, basically. And they have these people who speak [00:16:00] very well, who are smart, but they probably don't have the highest moral compass. And, um, they trick rel basically everybody, and it's been for decades. Um, and people just need to realize that listening to their mouths is a, uh, it's going to be a detriment because they'll say whatever and they'll be, they'll come across as extremely genuine.

Ted Macie: Um, because I've met some of these people and they seem like great people, nice people and, um, maybe they are, but I, they don't, uh, show that through having, um, strength when it comes to, uh, pushing back against. Uh, the system really,

Mara Macie: the status quo, we are screaming, our country is screaming for change and screaming for genuine representation.

Mara Macie: And yet we still make the same mistake that we've been making the whole time. We go with whoever is put forward with a bunch of money, and we [00:17:00] have to start recognizing that if someone has that amount of money, where you're seeing their signs everywhere, where you're seeing billboards, where you're seeing TV ads, unless they're independently wealthy, like Trump was.

Mara Macie: They can't, real candidates can't afford that stuff. So they're clearly being backed by the Uniparty, by the McCarthy's, by the McConnell's, those people in the world are the people that are backing all these candidates. We have to stop doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: What's a good litmus test that you use?

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Mara Macie: litmus, the litmus test. When you look at the primary. If you look at the primary sample ballot, what you need to do, and you're, you're going to want to probably vote for someone who aligns with you in terms of Republican or Democrat. That is just the way we are by how we assume they're going to behave.

Mara Macie: So you're going to want to look at those people on that [00:18:00] sample ballot and you're going to want to follow the money. So look into their campaign finances, which can generally be done at the state. Department of State, depending on, on what the candidacy is. Uh, the federal level, it's the Federal Election Commission.

Mara Macie: And at, um, at other local levels you might find it, Supervisors of Elections websites if it's a county level position. But you need to find out where they're getting their money from. And once you see the candidate that has a whole lot of money, you know that that candidate is being put out there by the Uniparty, by the establishment, and you're going to get the same thing.

Mara Macie: That you always got by voting for that person.

Ted Macie: And you also notice like, uh, if there, there's a lot of individual donors. With like max amount, like for say, for instance, a state is 1, 000 max contribution, but you'll see a lot of these, uh, it has to show someone's occupation, um, and you'll see like developer or lawyer,

Mara Macie: insurance companies, medical companies, real estate.[00:19:00]

Mara Macie: It's all the same, at least through Florida. That's how it is. Although I would suspect it's the same way throughout the whole country. That is for more of a local situation, but you'll also see the committees. So the PACs, the political action committees, you'll see that, say it's like a state representative who is a establishment guy, you will see that he received the max donation from several PACs possibly on the same day.

Mara Macie: If you look into those PACs, you might find out that they're all run by the same people too. So what that means is that our election laws are being, there's loopholes. They're being, um, avoided. By say, I want to give the candidate 30, 000, but the max donation is 1, 000. What I do instead is I give it to that pack.

Mara Macie: That pack throws it into different places and all donate it right to the candidate from those packs, all 30, 000.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. That seems like that's. An easy way to launder money [00:20:00] or to facilitate your guy, whoever that is, whoever's in charge for them to be the candidate every time, because unfortunately people, Oh, I've seen that name before.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Let me vote for them and not, not really looking into their stance on different subjects.

Mara Macie: Yeah. Ben Carson had a great. Talk about that. He said, people will look at a ballot and they'll look for the name they recognize. And it could be Satan, but they'll go, Oh, I know Satan. So I'm going to vote for him. And he said, most of the time it is Satan.

Ted Macie: That's pretty good. I like that guy.

Ted Macie: We could turn this into a follow the money show. If you want, we'll do it. We'll do segments, man. Yeah, let's do it. It's pretty wild. Like hearing it, like it's, it's weird cause we, we, uh, we show people how to do it and they get the concept, but then we'll go to our computer and we'll go to the DOS, the [00:21:00] department of state website or FEC and, and start painting the picture.

Ted Macie: And then they just go, Oh my gosh, like this is real. Like this is what's happening. And that's the frustrating part. It's like people know there's something wrong and they get that the politics are dirty and there's dark money and all that stuff. But it's different when you actually see the people and know the names and see them in person and talk to them and you go, you little mother.

Ted Macie: So it's, uh, that's. It's something that needs to have more, um, publicity. I mean, because it really is simple to figure out.

Mara Macie: Yeah, we need to encourage people to actually start looking at the money themselves. Because like Ted said, you talk to people and you're like, you don't get it. They're all backed by these lobbyists and special interest groups and they're doing their bidding.

Mara Macie: And everybody goes, of course, I know that. Everybody knows that that's how politics work. But when you sit them down and show it to them. And they can see how they're moving money around and then you [00:22:00] realize that that development down the street is that guy that's donating all that money to that candidate and and he didn't have to get a certain.

Mara Macie: Uh, permit or you start to hear about the things that how there's doing the actual things in your neighborhood, you start to really go. Wait a minute. This is more real than I thought. Like, you know, it's real. But then when you see it, you, it's even more real than you thought it was. And it's, it's all local all the way to the top.

Mara Macie: It is, it is not, yeah. Discriminate on which level of government?

Mara Macie: Well, and it gets nastier than that. So like, if you're running for a seat, the establishment, if you are a grassroots candidate and they think you're a good candidate, someone that will do their bidding that, and they don't want you for that seat, they'll say, Hey, back out of this seat. And what we'll do is we'll get you this other seat and we'll work your way up there.

Mara Macie: So you wanted us Congress, but we're going to give [00:23:00] you state Senate. There's a particular veteran in Florida that got a phone call from the governor back when he was running for U. S. Congress, and he dropped out of that race and ran for state senate and got the governor's endorsement the next day. So, they are quite literally playing chess with the people that they deem worthy.

Mara Macie: Otherwise, if you're not deemed worthy, they will crush you, they will make up lies about you, they'll send out mailers, they'll Call you anything from, depending on who they're marketing to, they'll call you a, um, MAGA Republican or a, uh, super liberal and same person, but they'll market you both ways, depending on who they're trying to get to, who their, who their audience is.

Ted Macie: Yeah. And they send these mailers to, so you can, as a, as a candidate, you can get, um, you can get, uh, what is it called? Voter rolls. So who, like, there's this thing called super voters, people who voted in the primary three years in a row, I think that that is, [00:24:00] um, and it's broken up by Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, um, so you can get these lists, like what she was saying, um, and you can direct target your mail and call, uh, like a regular conservative, um, And they'll send the, uh, mailers that this person's like a MAGA Republican, like Nazi, crazy person.

Ted Macie: And then to the democ then to the, uh, the conservative voters, the Republicans, they'll go, this person's, they'll say liberal, and put them like, fine pictures with, like, it's crazy, man, like, the And it works. That's the, that's the annoying part. So that's, uh, that's why we're

Mara Macie: all about education is educating yourself, educating your neighbors, educating your family.

Mara Macie: I'm 1 of the only people I know that actually says, if you don't really know enough about the candidates, please don't vote. Please don't vote. I know we, we grew up being told that it's part of our civic duty to go vote. But too many people are voting thinking they know something, [00:25:00] and that's what they're banking on.

Mara Macie: That's what the establishment banks on, is that you think you know something. That's why they dumbed down our education system. Our kids nowadays are getting a much worse education than we got when I was a kid. I'm sure I was getting a worse education than when my mother was a kid. That was intentional because The dumber we are, the more we rely on them.

Mara Macie: It's like when people say, Oh, you homeschooled, how are you? Do you have a degree in education? No, but I went to public school. So if they didn't do a good job, why would I want to send my kids there? It's, it's really. The same thing is you are always I remember the Dewey Decimal System very well. We had to write papers from elementary school all the way through high school in my public school education.

Mara Macie: We had to research things, you know, it could be the Titanic, it could be the Bermuda Triangle, anything you want. But we had to find at least a certain amount of [00:26:00] books starting in elementary school to write up a, a essay, a paper. We were taught to research things before we spoke on them, and now they're like, what do you mean you're doing your own research?

Mara Macie: You're not listening to the experts. It's, it's unbelievable how we have. Come from a place where we were supposed to be educated and know how to decipher good information from bad information to the point where they're like, no, you're not allowed to decipher any information at all. You have to let the experts do it and the experts.

Mara Macie: Meanwhile, they might read a chapter. Say, I don't know, on the adrenal glands at med school, but you know what, as someone who deals with adrenal issues on a daily basis, I have a little bit more of a grasp on what really goes on there, and it's just funny because People don't want to do the work anymore.

Mara Macie: So if you do want to do the work, all of a sudden [00:27:00] you're some crazy person who thinks they're an expert, but really they're just anti science. You know who's anti science, Sam? You ever been on a highway in Jacksonville? Those drivers, they are anti science because they will get about this close to your bumper.

Mara Macie: And I'm like, these people don't understand science. Yeah. Those people are anti science.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Well, what's interesting is what you mentioned is, you know, everyone wants to look, make, makes you say, they say to you, look at the experts, the experts know you're not qualified to understand this. Uh, I think probably the person that goes to school multiple years is not capable of looking at their position and saying that it's wrong.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Because their entire livelihood is dependent on their position that they spent years of their time and hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a master's or a PhD in whatever field of study. And so it, financially, and emotionally, and, and, um, [00:28:00] economically, I guess that's financial too, um, but it benefits them to not see the truth.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Um, you know, because they're in a higher position that they're an expert in this field, but you know, if we're talking about viruses or we're talking about COVID or we're talking about statins or we're talking about whatever it is, if they're an quote expert in that field, they're not able to objectively look at the information available.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And these are issues I'm dealing with in my personal life right now is, you know, like I've had conversations with, with people that, you know, they, you know, is our virus is what we think they are. I don't know. I've seen information now that makes me think that they're probably not what we think they are.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I'm not a hundred percent into, um, one or the other theory, germ theory or terrain theory, but there's enough information there to make me go, there might be an idea in terrain theory. That's, that's. Pretty close to right. There might be something about statins that are, they're probably pretty bad. Maybe we should err on the side of caution and not give harmful things to people.[00:29:00]

Mara Macie: But that's the type of doctor you are, and we've been blessed to be surrounded by doctors like you who understand that they don't know everything about, uh, medicine or viruses or the body. We, I guess we kind of chose that for ourselves because when we did start going to see, particularly again, endocrinologists, Who would say, this is what the textbook says about how you need to dose for this.

Mara Macie: So this is what you should do. And you realize that you aren't an individual to that person. You are just. It's a chapter in a textbook. And so we started moving away from those types of doctors a long time ago, but we are really blessed. We have, uh, you in our lives, we have Teresa, we have, uh, our friend Sarah, we have a lot of great doctors that are willing to admit that there's so much more to learn than what Pete.

Mara Macie: I love Pete and Joe. Joe's better than Pete. I think Joe's probably a better doctor. Joe the dog. [00:30:00] Anyhow, we're just blessed that we have people that realize that they don't know it, because you can't learn if you, if you think you know everything. You just can't. You cannot expand on something that you already think you are a master of.

Ted Macie: Pride is the hell of a drug, man. That's what I've noticed. These extremely intelligent people let their emotion and pride get in the way. And that's simply, like, honestly, I think that's all it comes down to. I mean, if they just got over themselves a little bit or were open minded skeptics to put, you know, opposed to like a closed minded skeptic, um, that, that they'll do huge service to the medical community.

Ted Macie: Um, as you've seen and experienced, like, I couldn't even imagine you must be like, go through days where you're like, how the heck am I the only doctor that's seeing this or is opening to even talk about this, dude, I'd be pulling my hair out actually. What hair? No jokes. Thank you. I'm done here. So like, seriously, though, man, like we [00:31:00] just do so much crap for the past, like over two years and you're just like, am I in the damn twilight zone?

Ted Macie: But then you realize a lot of the information has been suppressed and then you talk to people in the streets and everywhere else and it's like people get it. But obviously the media has been controlled for way too long.

Mara Macie: That's money. That's money. It's all money. Always money. Always money. Yep.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: When it's interesting because like, you know, you, you, so I had this one interaction with someone who they wanted Paxlovid, Paxlovid is a dangerous medication.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It has a black box wording on it. It interacts with multiple medications and you're more likely to have rebound COVID after you've taken it. And I had a patient who I said, well, uh, she said, are you going to give me the Paxlovid? And I said, why? It's not part of my practice. I don't use that. And she just looked at me with contempt because I guess she heard on CNN or whatever mainstream media.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And. That Paxlovid is the only treatment and it's the best treatment and it's safer than anything else out there. But that's just not the truth. [00:32:00] And now you've got these non experts teaching people to be experts in something they have no clue what they're talking about. And it's, it's mind blowing. It does make me want to rip my hair out and I'm surprised I still have any left.

Ted Macie: Well, at least it's going back on your face. That looks nice. Thanks.

Ted Macie: Dude, I know man. So it's like the autonomy for doctors has gone away completely and it's a it's it's pure business at this point There's no like doctor down the road that everybody knows You know, I mean this like we thought the old time like it was back in the day But it's so controlled just like the government everything's too damn big and it needs to be decentralized Big time because people are smart like a county can take care of itself with a bunch of commissioners.

Ted Macie: We don't need the Like every other overarching government in our lives, like we can take care of ourselves. I mean, just proving that there's, [00:33:00] there's been, there's nothing in the government that. Has been a success. I mean, I'm sure there are have been things that have come out with but like you look at the Department of Education like is there one measure measurement of success since the DOE took over like nothing there's nothing there and

Mara Macie: Yeah, if the Department of Education needs to go, but that's not the only department that needs to go or bureaucracy that needs to go but It is the thing about like federal funding, things like that.

Mara Macie: People want small government. At least we claim we do as conservatives that we want small government, but they don't like small government when it affects them. They still want the overarching fed to come in and bail them out of things. And I'm at the point. Where I'm saying we can't keep bailing people.

Mara Macie: We don't even have money. You couldn't run a household like this. You [00:34:00] wouldn't, You couldn't feed your children. Imagine just saying to the creditors, listen, I got kids and I have to feed them. So give me some more credit. It isn't gonna happen. It isn't gonna happen. So we have to learn to be consistent, that we have to have integrity and say no to things even when it benefits us.

Mara Macie: We have to say, this is not going to benefit our children in the future, this is not going to benefit future generations or our country, and if we keep going down this path, then there is going to be a point of no return, and we will end up globalists, or we will end up speaking Mandarin, it is not something we should miss.

Mara Macie: That is negotiable at this point. We need to stop it with favoring ourselves in our situation. I can't believe how much it costs to rename a highway and people support it. Like, listen, it's the name of a highway. Who cares? We don't need to name it after [00:35:00] the former governor or Anybody that you think is worthy of it, it's costing so much money.

Mara Macie: So we're originally from Massachusetts. And when you go to Massachusetts, now all the, all the exits have been changed because of Massachusetts. We didn't do the thing where you measure the amount of miles. It was just one, two, three, four, five. And it wasn't consistent with other parts of the country. So now they've got their new exit numbers up and then right under the new exit, it tells you there's another sign right under there.

Mara Macie: It tells you which old exit it was.

Ted Macie: Nostalgic. Remember old exit 7? We used to drive by old exit 7, but now it's 28. You know, it's like, it's so dumb.

Mara Macie: But you get to know both. And it, and it costs, it surely costs more money to change all those signs. And then to add the sign that told us, but the old sign had already set on it.

Mara Macie: So we are wasting money now, whether that's state funds or federal funds, at [00:36:00] one point, it doesn't matter because if the federal funds stopped coming in, then the state would be a little bit more, uh, careful about how they spend their money too, but we've gotten to the point where it's just, there's so many different.

Mara Macie: Baskets to choose from of, Oh, well, this money's for this and this money. And I think the first time I ever recognized that was in the military community when, uh, you, this, this is when you first started working medical. And, um, and we were talking to, I think he was a physical therapist. I don't even remember what he was, but he was talking about how his funds came from over here.

Mara Macie: So it didn't matter if they didn't have money because he still had money. And I'm like. I get the idea of why we do it, but when we do this and we split it up into pots too much, we are, we are just making it more confuse. It's like adding laws on top of laws. My favorite are redundant laws. Mm-Hmm.

Mara Macie: redundant. We already have a law that says that. Yes, but nobody follows it. So let's make another one. We, we need. To [00:37:00] make it a smaller package, we, we need to make it more comprehensible, like people need to understand what's going on. And they can't, because we keep adding more things on top of other things.

Mara Macie: Whether it's pots of money, well this pot is set aside specifically for this reason. Or whether it's, well this is old Exit 7, but it's 28 now. It is quite actually something we need to Make smaller rather than bigger. The whole government, state, federal, all government needs to be smaller.

Ted Macie: And back to follow the money because everything starts local.

Ted Macie: Everything starts local. Yep.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I would love to see our government go back to the Constitution and follow that. The whole idea is we make the government small and we make it move slow so that we can't get more laws and more problems because the more times that politicians meet and talk and pass laws, the more problems we have.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And that was the point of the [00:38:00] Constitution. That's why they made it to where it was almost a stalemate between the Senate and the Congress. So that nothing would be moved through either unless there was an overwhelming majority. And, and the idea that we vote for, as the local citizens of whatever state, that we vote for our senators is absolutely ridiculous because it's anti constitutional.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: The whole point of the Senate is to conduct the business of the state, not the business of the people. The business of the people is done in Congress. They're the closest to the people, they're re elected the most often, but the Senators, per the Constitution, are supposed to be appointed by the state because they deal with the state's business, which may be in conflict with the people in the states.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so, when Now it's just a big popularity party. We have whoever's most popular in, in my district, and whoever's most, you know, for, for my congressman, and whoever's most popular in my state gets a senator position. Now whatever I want, and, and this is a problem that we've been seeing is, ever since [00:39:00] COVID, what America's always done is we, I would sacrifice myself for my children.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And ever since COVID, what our country has done and demonstrated is, I will sacrifice my children for me. Which is Tragic and heartbreaking. We've put masks on kids to save elderly. Well, the elderly need to take care of themselves because the children are going to be damaged for years from putting masks on them.

Mara Macie: Yeah. And there are a lot of amendments that were made to the Constitution where you, you do kind of rethink it when you reread it as an adult. Uh, even right down to, well, the vice president was really the guy who came in second, so. You know, is, is that okay? Or, um, just the whole idea that we just keep changing it.

Mara Macie: And like term limits [00:40:00] in particular is one that I support term limits. I feel like if the president is going to have term limits, then everybody else should, but I support term limits. Because people are uneducated voters. If we had educated voters, I don't think we would need term limits at all. We could go back to the constitutional value when it came to, that there were no term limits.

Mara Macie: You could have done whatever you wanted, president forever, but people wouldn't have done that because they were educated enough to know that we needed to change hands at some point. Now, we would literally vote ourselves into a dictatorship. We, that's how dumb our voter base has been. And I was part of that problem.

Mara Macie: I was, at one point, unaware of what I'm aware of now. I'm open about saying that, that I didn't realize when I went into the voting booth and voted for the R, that, um, that I was not doing my due diligence. But I will say it, and I'll say it now, but that's why I work [00:41:00] to educate people about it now, and why I try to expose the corruption that goes on.

Mara Macie: But yeah, what would happen if we went back to the Constitution? Just the Constitution the way it is, and really Reassess the amendments that, um, I suppose we could do without, because I, I think that there, I know a lot of people have different opinions on which amendments. We could do without, but I would say some of the more recent amendments are more likely on the chopping table or chopping block for the people I talk to.

Mara Macie: But yeah, it would be, it would be interesting to see if we went back to the way that the Senate was elected, not elected, chosen. Essentially chosen.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Well, it has been wonderful having y'all on. Thank you so much for coming on with me

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