143. Clotting Phenomena- A New Normal? with Tom Haviland
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Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know, all these things that are going on.

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Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And ask them specifically, what did you see? When did you see these things start to happen? Tom, thank you so much for coming back.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Well, Dr. Sam, thanks for having me back on the show. Uh, yeah, this will be the third year in a row that we've run this, uh, worldwide embalmer blood clot survey. And for your audience, just maybe a short recap of what we [00:04:00] learned out of the first two.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We ran one at the end of the year of 2022. And we saw there were three main conclusions to that survey. We had 179 responses to that survey. Exactly two thirds, 66%, 119 out of the 179 of all responded to that first survey said they were indeed seeing these unusual white fibrous clots in their corpses.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I'll show the audience here. There's an example of one that's white in color when it's taken out of a vein or an artery of a corpse. Here's another one that's a little darker in color. If the cloth still has blood on it and it's put in the form one, then it'll return kind of darkish in color. It'll stain.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: But embalmers, you know, with 20 or 30 years of experience, Sam, starting to see in these white fibrous cloths, in 2021, which is suspiciously after the COVID 19 vaccines rolled out. This is a phenomenon they had never seen before, you know, prior to the years of the pandemic. So, very unusual stuff. In [00:05:00] addition to the, uh, two thirds of the embalmers saying they were seeing the cloths, they were seeing them salmon an average of 30 percent of their corpses.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So, this is not a rare phenomenon. They were seen with three out, and that's even if you include all the zeros from the embalmers have said they saw none. And then, uh, as I said, uh, uh, the main consensus of that first survey was indeed that the embalmers were seeing, uh, the, this phenomenal starter for them in the year 2021.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So then last year, we ran the survey again at the end of the year 2023. And, uh, again, Uh, about 78 percent of the embalmers said they were, excuse me, 73 percent said they were seeing the white fibrous clots again last year, and they were seeing them in an average of 20 percent of the corpses, so it did go down a little bit from 30 percent down to 20%, which is a move in the right direction.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We also asked the embalmers last year about another phenomenon called microclotting, and I know you're familiar with this. The embalmers actually don't call it that, they call it coffee grounds or dirty blood as they're trying to get the blood [00:06:00] off the corpse But the formaldehyde in they see what looks like coffee grounds in the blood.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And they said they were seeing that phenomenon, uh, about, uh, 78 percent of the involvement said they were seeing that phenomenon in, uh, 25 percent of the corpses, one out of every four corpse. Now this is a, a, um, phenomenon that embalmers had seen prior to COVID, microclotting. However, they've seen it in less than five percent of their corpses.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So this was at least a quintupling of this phenomenon as well. So, and this could be, as you know, just as dangerous as the white, the white fibrous clots we think are causing strokes and heart attacks. You know, because they're big and then they eventually block off a vein or an artery. The microclotting can be just as dangerous though, because it's blocking the, uh, it occurs at the capillary level, in very small blood vessels, and it can block the exchange of oxygen at the lungs and then the carrying of oxygen to all the major organs of the body, you know, including the brain, the eyes, etc.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: That might be one of the reasons people are getting brain fog these days, for example. But, uh, [00:07:00] And then we checked for a few other things too. Uh, about a fourth of the embalmers said that they had seen an increase in infant deaths. We also asked the embalmers, um, age stratification wise, are you seeing clotting in all age groups?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And they were, they were seeing increased clotting in all age groups since 2021, primarily in those 36 years old and up. So those were the main results of the, uh, First two surveys. So now here we are at the end of December of 2024. And again, of course, we ran the survey over this last month, mid November to mid December to see what the embalmers were seeing.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: in 2024. And again, Sam, the results are shocking.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So if you, I don't know if you just want to go through them and we've got the PowerPoint slide up. So what we did again this year, the good news is this year we got actually more responses than ever before. We got 301 responses, but there's a little story with that even because last year we, the, um, [00:08:00] state of Pennsylvania.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: What we do, by the way, is we send the each the surveys out to 50 national, regional, and state funeral director associations, you know, each with hundreds of members under them. And then we also use a bottom up approach. We send the survey directly to Um, over 1, 700 funeral homes around the world in major cities.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And what we do is we send an email that's kind of linked to a SurveyMonkey survey. It only takes about three or four minutes to take, very quick and easy. Ten questions. That's, uh, this year's survey was ten questions. And then, um, You know, we invite the embalmers to, to respond to the survey. And then we tabulate the, actually Survey Monkey tabulates the results for us, which is really convenient.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So this year we got 301 responses, but one of my, my very best performers from last year, the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association, Headed up by a Mr. Chris Calvi Jr. They decided not to participate this year. I was kind of [00:09:00] flabbergasted because they had, there were embalmers in the state of Pennsylvania had provided 130 responses to last year's survey.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: This year we got none from the, from the, uh, association. We got three from embalmers out of the state of Pennsylvania through our, you know, sending it directly to funeral homes, but that was a severe hit. The good news is it was,

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: this is, this is what's really perplexing, Sam. I've been in communication with the president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association, Mr. Chris Calvi Jr. Chris has been seeing the unusual clotting himself. Yet his, his organization decided not to participate. Let me read to you a short paragraph of an email he sent to me on the 20th of November.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: He said, Hey Tom, I will see what I can do. And he's, he's, he's stating here that he's trying to, um, convince his executive board to allow the embalmers to take the survey. I was, I was one of the embalmers who responded to the survey last year regarding the cloth situation. [00:10:00] So I do recognize this to be a current situation.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I see TK, he's talking about a colleague, friend of his who's also an embalmer, on this email. And he and I do quite a bit of chatting about it, and I do help their firm when he's away, so I do see the same things he's experiencing. More concerning for me is the piss poor distribution I've been experiencing to the extremities.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Cloths aside, nearly every person that I embalm is not getting good distribution to one or both of the hands below the elbow, something I've not seen in the past. So right there, the president of the Pennsylvania Funeral Directors Association is admitting that he's seeing problems, you know, unusual clotting, yet they don't want to take the survey.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Isn't that bizarre? It's sad, isn't it? It's sad. And you know, I have a couple reasons, Sam, why I think this might be happening. First of all, most of these, um, Funeral Director Association Presidents, they're funeral directors themselves. You know, they elect one of their own as their president. Well, [00:11:00] would you want to be participating, participating in a survey that might show a link between the COVID 19 vaccines and these white fibrous clots and this micro clotting if you had mandated that all your employees of your funeral home take the COVID 19 vaccine?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Right? You might be setting yourself up for a lawsuit. Also, as the CDC has told us, you know, 80 percent of American adults over the age of 18 took at least the first two jabs back in 2021. So I think a lot of these funeral directors may have a little bit of cognitive dissonance. They may not want to know the answer to these questions because they've taken the shots themselves.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Just a couple of, you know, speculation there. But it was disappointing because, you know, we could have had then probably 130 more responses had he released the survey to his employers in the state of Pennsylvania and they'd answered similar, you know, to what they did last year. And by the way, last year, you know, they were seeing about 70 percent of them said they were seeing the clots, about 30 percent said they were not.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So it wasn't like we were getting, you know, We were getting, uh, you know, comments on both sides, both pro and con, about the cloths. [00:12:00] So, this year in this survey, as you'll see, we asked some questions, uh, to delve into that psychology a little bit more because of this reluctance of the embalmers and the funeral director associations to talk about this situation.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So, and as usual, uh, in, like we did in our first two surveys, Sam, we never mentioned the words COVID or COVID vaccine anywhere in the instructions or in the questions, because we want to keep the survey as unbiased as possible. So the first question that you don't see on the screen is we usually ask the embalmers, you know, what state, what province in Canada, what country in UK.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Are you, are you from? And that, that, um, we did that because we wanted to check for regionality. But the problem is we only got 301 responses and that's not enough to check for regionality. You know, we were curious as to whether we might see a cluster of, uh, clotting in a particular geographic area, which could be an indication that there's a bad batch maybe was sent to that region.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: But when you only have 301 [00:13:00] responses around the world, that's not enough to check for regionality. Question number two, we asked the embalmers again this year, did you see, did you observe any large whitish fibrous clot structures as seen in the photo above in the corpses that you embalmed in 2024? Look at that, Sam.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: 250 of the 301 embalmers that responded this year, 83 percent said they were seeing the white fibrous clots in 2024. Richard Hirschman and I, you know, we, we, we think there's two reasons this could be happening. Uh, you know, first of all, the, the actual number of white fibers clots could be increasing, but we don't think it's that.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We think it's probably that embalmers maybe feel a little bit more comfortable now. Maybe there's less of a stigma for them now. Four years into this to admit that these white fibrous clots are happening. So I think that's probably what's going on here. More of the embalmers are, feel more, uh, relaxed to admit that this is actually a phenomenon.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Plus they've had four years now to see the clots [00:14:00] as opposed to, you know, three years. The next question we obviously ask is, well, what percentage of corpses? In the year 2024 that you've embalmed have had the large whitish fibrous cloths. Look at that, Sam. If you average all those bars together, you an average of a weighted average of 27 and a half percent of the corpses in year 2024 contain these white fibrous cloths.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You see, embalmers said they saw none, embalmers said they saw, uh, clotting, uh, white fibrous clots in between 1 to 20 percent of their corpses. 74 embalmers said they saw between 21 to 40 percent of their corpses. 55 embalmers said they saw the white fibrous clots between 41 to 60 percent of their corpses.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: As you can see from that note, you know, Balmers never saw this phenomenon prior to the years of COVID and the vaccines. This is a brand new pathological phenomenon. There was something back in the late 70s and 80s called white clot syndrome that was being heparin induced, but I believe they [00:15:00] changed some of the strength and formulation of the heparin to help alleviate that problem.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: There was a small, uh, A fraction of people that have bad immune responses to heparin, which is a, you know, normal anticoagulant. So, but nothing like the, uh, like I said, the tremendous amount of white fibrous clots that are being seen by embalmers these days. This is definitely, and I guess the good, or actually it's bad news, it's bad news.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Like I said, last year's survey said that the embalmer said they were seeing the white fibrous clots in 20%. Now it's back up to 27. 5%, which is a little distressing for me. I was hoping to see this number actually go down to like 10 percent this year as we get further and further away from the jabs. You know, most people took their last jabs way back in 2021 and they passed on the boosters in 2022 and 2023.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: The reality with that is, I have patients who just recently, you know, they're over 65, [00:16:00] they just recently got the flu and the COVID, and, and what's concerning about that is, back in 23, the ACIP, Advisory Council on Immunization Policy, said that if you're over 65 or older, and you get COVID and flu at the same time, the injections, you have a higher risk of stroke.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so at that point, there should have been, that should have been widely publicized. People should have stopped giving both at the same time. But now I hear of these patients, 65 and older, they're going to CVS. They're going to, um, to Fry's pharmacy. They're going to the local pharmacy and they're getting both jabs at the same time.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You're right, Sam. And as I said, even though a lot of Americans passed on the boosters in 2022 and 2023, That's mostly the younger population. You're absolutely right. The older population, I think a large percent, 30 or 40 percent of people, 65 and older, I believe, are still taking the COVID vaccines because they're recommended.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: But, and the elderly seem to be more frail and more scared of COVID. So it's not a good situation, [00:17:00] is

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: it? Because we know these shots are doing some damage. Question four, did you see the white, whitish fiber structures clots in a higher percentage of corpses in 2024 than in 2023? And we did this because we realized there would probably be a different mix of embalmers answering the survey from year to year.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: That's exactly what happened. Um, you know, like I said, Pennsylvania was heavy in the, uh, responses last year. This year they were very light. But the slack was picked up by states like Louisiana, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, and Utah. Uh, they came through and more than made up for the lack of responses that we got out of Pennsylvania last year.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: As you can see there though, you know, the average, about the same bar is 155. Then you see the less, uh, clotting in 2024, and 59 and Balmer said that, 47. So they saw more clotting of the white fibers clots in 2024. So it all kinds of evens out to about the same [00:18:00] as the way I read this question, which like I said, it's still alarming.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know, we think that it may take anywhere from six months all the way to two or three years for these white fibers clots to grow slowly to the point where they have an event eventually become life threatening, you know, occluding, blocking a, a vein or an artery. So we don't know that for sure, but this data seems to indicate that, Sam.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Here's where we start to ask the embalmers a few questions, uh, that are, um, kind of about the psychology of the whole thing. We say, do other embalmers that you talk to say that they are seeing the large whitish, fibrous, structurous clots? The Yes bar is much longer than no, no bar, right? 185 Embalmers said they do talk to other embalmers, and the other embalmers say that they are indeed seeing the white fibers clots.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yet, as you and I know, very few embalmers that come forward publicly have, have the, uh, Sam, uh, Richard Hirschman's one, uh, uh, John o Looney from the UK is another very few. [00:19:00] So this tells me that the ERs are, they're admitting to each other privately that they're seeing the clots. But they're not talking publicly about it, which is a problem, right?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Because other than, uh, vascular surgeons, cardiologists, and people that work in cath labs, and we, we know these things are happening amongst the living, cause we have a couple of whistleblowers that said they'd been pulling these same white fibrous cloths out of the living for the last three years.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Other than those people, they're the only ones that see the insides of veins and arteries, right? So if the embalmers and the vascular surgeons and cardiologists and cath lab workers don't talk about it. Then nobody knows. We're all in the blind because they're the only ones that see what's going on in veins and arteries of people.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Note there at the bottom, look, there was, there was even 66 embalmers that said, we don't talk about this. What's that all about? You know, are they not interested? Are they too scared? You know, has their, uh, the boss of their funeral home told them, Hey, give them orders, instructed them not to talk about this.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know, [00:20:00] I'm suspicious of that.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Here's, uh, we asked a couple of questions again this year about microclotting. As you can see there, 233 of the 301 embalmers that responded, 78 percent said, uh, they were seeing the microclotting in the year 2024. And that's about the same, it was 79 percent last year. So almost identical in terms of percentage of embalmers seeing that phenomenon.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And as I said, this is a phenomenon, if you look at that note there, that has been seen in less than 5 percent of corpses prior to the years of COVID and the vaccines. As you can see up there in red, if you average all those bars together, You get a weighted average of 22 percent of corpses in the year 2024 containing the microclotting.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: As we said earlier, this can be just as dangerous as the white fibrous clots blocking the exchange of oxygen. So, you know, 118 said they saw the microclotting between 1 to 20 percent of their corpses. Another 79 embalmers said they saw the microclotting between 21 to 40 percent of their corpses. [00:21:00] So, again, not a good situation.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Not a good situation at all.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We asked the embalmers, have you watched any online videos such as the Died Suddenly video, if you recall, that came out in November of 2022. So that's, uh, several years old, at least over two years old now. And that was a, uh, and it's still available on Rumble, your, uh, Viewers can go still watch that on Rumble.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: It's about an hour long documentary. About half that movie is devoted to the six or seven embalmers, including Mr. Richard Hirschman, John O'Looney, and several others that said they were, uh, seeing the white fibers cloths. And there's video footage in there of the cloths that they removed from corpses and So it's a pretty convincing video.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: That's what led me to do the whole survey, get involved in these surveys. As I watched that video and a embalmer from the state of Indiana, Mr. Wallace Hooker, that he was lecturing in [00:22:00] an Ohio embalmers association conference in Columbus, Ohio in October, 2022, to a room full of 100 embalmers. And he said he was.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Seeing the white fibrous cloths himself. And he showed him photographs of that lecture. And he said, by a show of hands, how many of you are seeing these same white fibrous cloths? And he says in the movie that almost the entire room, 100 embalmers raised their hands. Yes, they were seeing the cloths. And then he asked him, well, when did you start seeing them?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And they all agreed it was in the middle of 2021, about six months after the vaccines rolled out. I took that ball and ran with it to do the worldwide surveys to see whether that statement was true or not. I also called the Ohio Bombers Association the very next day after I watched that movie, the night that it premiered in 2022.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And I talked to the vice president of the Ohio Bombers Association. Mr. Woody Wilson, who's now the president of the Ohio Embalmers Association. And Woody admitted to me that he was seeing the white farmers cloths as well. So that was a slam dunk for me. I then had a [00:23:00] official officer from a state funeral director or a state embalmer association saying that he was seeing the cloths.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: In fact, the president now of that organization admits that he's been seeing the cloths for the last three years. So, uh, And this one, uh, we asked the embalmers, you know, have you ever watched those videos or read articles or, you know, looked into this white. Fibrous clot issue. Look at that result, Sam. Two thirds of the embalmers, 205 said, no, I just, it just, it flummoxes me, the lack of curiosity, this is their profession, right?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: This is what they do for a living. And we know that the embalmers, uh, when they, Yeah, when they find, uh, uh, corpses that are riddled with these cloths, it can lengthen the time that it takes to do an embalming by about an hour. So it's frustrating because instead of using one injection site point like they usually do with the carotid, they'll have to go into multiple injection site points.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: They'll have to go down to the iliac artery and the pelvis, under the armpits, other locations, in order to get fluid in and take out these cloths to embalm [00:24:00] the body. So it's lengthened the process from about an hour and a half procedure to a two and a half hour procedure, whenever they run across corpses.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Question 9, we asked them, Are you a member of a professional embalmer or funeral director association? No surprise here. Over 80 percent of them are indeed members of an association, either an embalmer or a funeral director's association. We kind of asked in that question to set them up for this last question here.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Has your professional embalmer or funeral director association ever discussed the large whitish fibrous clot structures? Look at that. Only 52 of the involvers out of the 301 said that their funeral director association is talking about this, you know, either at an annual meeting or, you know, in a monthly or quarterly newsletter.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Again, very perplexing, right? Especially in light of the fact these same involvers that answered this survey, 83 percent of them said they were seeing the white fibrous cloths this year. And, you know, [00:25:00] 78 percent said they were seeing the microclothing. Yet their funeral director associations are not talking about this?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: It's really strange. So

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: if you want to, we can go into a few of the embalmers, uh, made some comments. You know, at the end of the surveys of each of our three surveys, we allow the embalmers to, in an open form. They don't have to, it's optional, but they can, uh, write down further thoughts about what they are seeing or not seeing in the embalming room.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And as I mentioned earlier, nowhere in our surveys do we ever mention the words covid or covid vaccines, but what's interesting is. A lot of the embalmers, when they give us their comments, they talk about the vaccines or they talk about COVID, even though we never mentioned it. So, you know, it's coming from their head and not mine or my assistants.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So let me go through a few of these with you. I think they're kind of interesting. Here's one from the state of Georgia. The majority of cases of decenes I've embalmed who present the [00:26:00] large whitish fibrous clots were in the age range from late 50s to early 70s. Microclotting and grape jelly type clotting have been observed almost on every case who have hospitalized prior to death.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So, you know, I was a little bit surprised. I would have expected to see the micro, excuse me, the white fibrous clots be most prominent in people in their 80s and 90s. But unfortunately, you're hitting people, uh, you know, as soon as they're late fifties. Um, that's not good. Right. Also, what do you think about the statement that last statement, Sam?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: He says that microclothing and grape jelly type clotting have been observed in almost every case of hospitalized prior to death. What's your judgment or suspicion, Sam, on whether these Uh, horrendous clots are the cause, indeed, of the death.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Well, yeah, it makes you wonder, is it the cause of the death? Or is there some medication that, that they're getting that's, it's inducing these clots either to cause death or, you know, post mortem?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Uh, but it's interesting that the hospital, he makes [00:27:00] that correlation between hospitalized and these clots are being worse in those patients.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I thought so too. That's why I concluded it on that. Here's another one from the state of Kentucky. I've been an embalmer since the early 2000s for an embalming service.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I've never seen anything like this before the spring of 2021. I have experienced the white fibrous cloths that have stretched out to 20 inches. It's like battling a rubber band. My right hand and elbow has suffered from these cloths. I've been saying for the last three years, this isn't normal. I've recently spoke, spoken with a physician that's been hearing this in his field.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We are in the same agreement that we feel we know where this has come from. I think in that last name, he's probably talking about a certain intervention that, uh, a lot of people took in 2021.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: So.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Again, interesting, you know, he's, he's confirming what our previous surveys have shown that, you know, this phenomenon for him started in 2021 as well.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And he also said in that next to last sentence [00:28:00] that he's speaking with a physician who's seen that, you know, this in the living as well. So this is, you know, further confirmation that this kind of stuff is going on.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Here's one from the state of Canada with a little bit of a different attitude. Since the beginning of COVID 19 pandemic, which I assume this survey is pertaining to, I have not noticed any cloths, fiber structures, or contents in the blood outside of the ordinary. It is also not our responsibility as embalmers to take note of these cases.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Record or share any information as it is confidential medical information that breaches the privacy clause we have with our client families. Videos and articles such as Died Suddenly are anti vaccine, COVID denying propaganda that is based in no actual fact other than to spread right wing beliefs and fear mongering in the public.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Well, you see where he's from [00:29:00] and what's interesting, it sounds like he was, uh, he is, is buying what the, the government is selling wholeheartedly, um, because yes, it, it, it's, it's not breach of confidential information to share. I found clots in a person. That doesn't tell you who, that doesn't tell you where, that doesn't tell you when.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: There's no patient identifiers in there. And I would imagine that the decedents have slightly different laws around them than actual patients.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yeah, I was, I was actually, like you, I'm in total disagreement with that statement that he made. It is not his responsibility. It is, you know, similar to when embalmers, if they find like a gunshot wound or a stab wound, they are legally.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: required to report that to the police. Well, similarly, if you're finding a strange new phenomenon that's happening in corpses, such as these white fibers, cloths, and the micro clotting. I believe that it is ethically an involver's responsibility to [00:30:00] bring that to the attention of the authorities. Because, you know, we're talking about the, uh, something that could dramatically affect humanity here.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So, um, most of the involvers that I've talked to are in total disagreement with this. This person that and they believe that and you know, uh, Richard Hirschman and John Looney, they wrestled with this because they understand there is a certain privacy to the embalming room, but you're absolutely correct.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Sam, you know, as long as you're not giving up information about specific names of people, you're just saying, Hey, I'm seeing this phenomenon in corpses. There's nothing. You're not breaching any privacy clause by revealing that information. So

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I think it's interesting. They said that it's anti vax and it's spreading right wing beliefs and fear mongering the public.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: What's I think If we look back to just before the COVID shots, there was a lot of fear mongering going on by people who weren't allegedly right wing. And the whole right wing idea is what's really interesting about these COVID shots is it's the strangest phenomenon I've seen is people that you would suspect, Oh, they're going to be pro shot.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: They're going to be for the shot and all [00:31:00] that. They were against it. And it's like, okay, the lines were drawn in strange places here. The friends that I think Before the shot that I thought were friends turned out to be some of my most fierce enemies and people that I had no idea that they would be on, on the, the anti COVID shot side.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: They were some of the best friends that I've had through this. And it's, it's a very interesting place where all the lines were drawn during this, this whole issue.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And I've noticed the exact same thing you have. It's not really a red or blue issue. People try to make it a red or blue issue, right? Try to go down political line.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Trust me. Uh, you know, the, the vaccine injuries strike the Democrats just as much as they do the Republicans. This is not a red blue issue, but you're right. It was, it was unusual how people did draw lines and, and, and you couldn't figure out, like you say, what's going on. Who is going to be an ally and who is going to be an enemy in this in this thing?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Uh, what's interesting in Virginia? Uh, the next one says i'm finding a lot of the white rubbery clots and have been taking pictures of them But it's [00:32:00] become the new normal. I don't use a drain tube anymore because of all the clots blood clots and fibrous white ones My angular forceps is my go to instrument to help remove them So, you know, what's this guy above in canada trying to say about the person in virginia and the other 249 embalmers that?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You Responded to this year's survey saying they were seeing the white fibers clots. Is he calling all 250 of them, you know, liars? You know, it's, it's bizarre, isn't it? So it's interesting. Here's another one from the state of New York. I've seen the clots vary from case to case since the COVID shot came around.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: We've had many young deaths. 50 to 60 year olds with massive heart attacks and every one of them has had clots as discussed in this survey. Seems many people just want to turn a blind eye to it all. It's a shame. As someone who's been around this for 12 years, I've never seen anything like this.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Another one here from Ohio. The past few years I've seen a significantly larger percentage of clotting in almost all [00:33:00] embalmments. These white fibrous clots are definitely unusual having never seen them before 2021. Although not seeing the white fibrous clots or micro clotting in a larger percentage of the deceased, number of grape jelly clots has significantly increased from the years past in all decedents.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And we've noticed this from our previous surveys as well. The embalmers said the grape jelly clots have increased as well, and they've also become more viscous. They describe them now as more like grape jam than grape jelly. I actually have a little bit of a sad story for you, Sam. I'm from Ohio, and about two weeks ago I had to go to a funeral My, uh, cousin, his 24 year old daughter, Sam, passed away with a brain aneurysm.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yeah. Now he told me that, uh, she had told him that she had not taken the vaccine and I want to believe her, but she did work for a, uh, local county government in a, in a county court office. Yeah. She did do a lot of [00:34:00] volunteer work with a high school marching band in the summers. Uh, you know, band camp, they have to get the marching band ready for the football season and fall.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Excuse me. So I just, I bring this up as a plea to all the young people and everybody in families, let your loved ones know your actual jab status. Whether you've taken the shots or not, because it's, it's important for the nurse, because if God forbid something happens, if you do die suddenly, it's important for the, for people to know that now, Richard Hirschman has told me that there's been some families he's come across that have said that their loved one did not take the jab only to later find out after the funeral, as they were going through their belonging, as long as they found the vaccination card for that person.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So it's a sad state of affairs.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And the reason I think some of that might happen is a couple of reasons. People may be, have been scared initially and said they got it or they work required it, but [00:35:00] then they don't want to look like someone who went along with the crowd or, or they're fearful themselves and are honestly denying that they took it and say, no, nothing will happen.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I'll be fine. I'll be fine. And then, and then something terrible does happen.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Or, you know, your parents advise you not to get it, but then you took it anyways, cause you wanted to travel or, you know, you're, you're. peer pressured by your teenage friends or whatever, you know, and then you don't want to disappoint your parents by telling them you got it.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So you, you, you lie to them. So I'm not saying that's what happened here, but I'm just saying it's, it's probably happening a lot in, uh, all over the world. And that's unfortunate.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Idaho. Sometimes I'm given the information about if someone has had a certain vaccine. Sometimes I'm aware that they've had five or six doses of it. These are the people that we are seeing with the abnormal clots or significant amount of clots. So that one kind of speaks for itself. Here's another one from Florida.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I've seen both [00:36:00] types of cloths and definitely seen the white fibrous cloths in larger numbers as time goes on. These cloths range anywhere from three to six inches in length with the lesser outliers in both directions. Although I do see the grape jelly and coffee, they present themselves in a much smaller number.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I've been performing approximately 100 to 150 embalmings per year for the past four years. I presently work with five other embalming funeral directors you. have the same, have much the same experience. So again, that last sentence, you know, they're talking to each other privately about it, but they're not speaking out publicly.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: This one also, he said something, uh, contradicted one of the earlier embalmers, he said, he's seeing less of the grape jelly and coffee, coffee grounds. So this just tells me, you know, different embalmers are seeing different things, you know, cause maybe it's a region, regionality thing, you know, I don't know, maybe it has to do with their technique.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: But, you know, the majority are seeing the white fibrous clots in the microclotting. You know, [00:37:00] 70, or actually 80 plus percent.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Here's another naysayer from the state of Arizona. Can't believe we're still talking about this. It's a total scam and conspiracy theory. Blood clots are caused by refrigeration when bodies are moved in and out, repeating and refrigerated for a long duration before embalming. And we've, we've had several of the folks that are naysayers come up with this comment, but this one doesn't wash with myself and most of the embalmers for two reasons.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: First of all, the embalmers, even when they're picking up bodies, they're only an hour or two old and they're still warm. They've not been refrigerated yet. They found some of those bodies riddled with the clots. They said, there's just no way those clots could have formed in the hour or two since the person passed.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Also, as I mentioned earlier, I have found a whistleblower in the state of Florida. He's a cardiologist and endovascular specialist from Jacksonville, Florida. And he admitted to me in an [00:38:00] email that he's been removing the white fibrous clots from his patients, living patients for the last several years.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yeah. And he actually sent me an email with a photograph of a white fibrous clot still covered in blood. And when it first comes out, it's covered in blood, but you can see the white fibrous. running through the middle of it. And, uh, he also sent me the angiograms of what the clot looked like in the leg before it was removed.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Now, Dr. Philip McMillan, who runs a channel over in the UK, a YouTube channel called VEGON Health, V E G O N, he's also come across another cath lab worker. Um, and this also here in the United States, this gentleman has been working in the same catheterization lab for 20 years. He's been removing anywhere between three to 10 of these white fibers, cloths out of patients per week in his one cat lab alone.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And unlike the embalmers, the doc, these doctors do have access to the COVID vaccination records of their patients. So he [00:39:00] says he can tell 99 percent of the time when he finds the white fibers, cloths. The person's been jabbed with anywhere between one to eight jabs. And the more jabs you've taken, the worse the clotting seems to be.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: He can tell you what brand they took, when they took their shots. And like I said, how many they took. The unfortunate thing is this particular whistleblower and the one that I have from Jacksonville are afraid to come forward publicly. They've seen what's happened to Dr. Peter McCullough, uh, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: you know, Pierre Cory, yourself. People get attacked if they say anything or hit anything even negative about the vaccines in conjunction with this unusual clotting and all these other side effects like turbo cancers, myocarditis, miscarriages, you know, all these things that are going on. So you see the next comment from Florida, they're kind of disagrees immediately with the Arizona guy.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: He says many with many involvements that I've seen these clots in, I've had to inject in multiple points, [00:40:00] both with cases refrigerated and prep done within a couple hours after death. So he's seen the white fibers clots in fresh corpses that are only an hour or two old and not refrigerated. Another one from Florida here seems like traditional chicken fat clots are less frequent.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: being replaced with jelly fibers and micro clotting. And this brings up another point that the naysayers like to bring up. It will sit, they'll say, Hey, wait a minute. These clots are shown. These are just chicken fat clots. They've been around forever. Well, chicken fat clots have indeed been around forever, but they're much different than these white fibers, clots, chicken clots, chicken fat clots are typically yellowish in color.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Uh, they're very small and they tear very easily, much different than these large, long, white fibrous clots that are tough and rubbery and hard to break even with forceps. So, uh, you know, the vast majority of bulborbs understand that there, these are two different types of clots. And this is, this is [00:41:00] indeed a new phenomenon.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: The last comment here from Iowa, very thick and large. I've had, uh, some of the whole diameter of the arteries. Longer than a foot long. So this brings up something that Dr. Campbell noticed when I, when we were interviewing with him, uh, a lot of these white fibrous clots actually take on the shape of the vascular system, the main canal, and then all the tributaries running off of that main channel.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Depending on, you know, where, where they're taken out of the vascular system. Actually, I think I do have one more slide here. Excuse me. Here's one from Louisiana. Some of these fibrous, he says blots. I think he means clots, come out as a whole, if done carefully, that mimic the arterial system. These clots are clearly the cause of demise of these decedents, but were legally labeled as heart issues, which are not typically autopsied to fully [00:42:00] determine actual cause of death.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: What I think he's getting here at here, Sam, is that. Uh, some of these death certificates, in fact, many death certificates may be mismarked. It may be attributing the cause of death to something other than the white fibrous cloths, you know, or microclothing and calling it something else. What do you think of that statement?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, I think, well, if you're not doing an autopsy to determine, then you'll have no idea. And, and you have to look at all these major vessels if you're doing the autopsy. And, uh, I just don't know how often that's, that's looked into.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: This has been one of the really perplexing things over the last four years is the lack of autopsies have been done a few weeks ago.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I called a, um, coroner, uh, coroner's office up in Medina County, Ohio, close to where my assistant, Laura Kassner lives and talk to that County coroner. And unfortunately she says she only has a budget. To do two autopsies per month. So she has to save them for cases where foul play is suspected, like, you know, [00:43:00] blood gunshots or stabbings, that kind of thing.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So she would love to be able to do more autopsies, especially, you know, like young people in their twenties or thirties that die suddenly to find out why they're dying suddenly. But they just don't have the budget to do it. And even when the au uh, the me medical examiners that do the autopsies, most of the times they're looking at the large.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Organs of the spleen, liver, heart. a brain, they may do toxicology, you know, if a drug overdose was suspected. But very few of these medical examiners take close looks at the whole vascular system. So the embalmers and I believe that they're missing these cloths as the embalmers are the ones that are finding them because they, they have to know what's going on in the whole system as they're, you know, trying to pump the fluid in.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: get the blood out. So the bulbers are, we believe are catching a lot of these white fibers clots that the medical examiners and coroners are missing.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: What's interesting about this also is previous to this, [00:44:00] finding a clot in an arterial or, or a smaller artery was virtually unheard of. And now you, so you wouldn't look there for anything.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And I think it was unheard of, not virtually. I think it was unheard of. And, and now you have the embalmers. That's their job is to go into the arteries and arterioles and pump in fluid and they can't do it.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You're absolutely correct. And, uh, the embalmers, Richard Hirschman and the other embalmers have mentioned that to me as well.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Prior to the pandemic, they've found, uh, great jelly clots and traditional, uh, chicken fat clots. almost exclusively on the venous side. Very, very rarely would they ever find a clot on the arterial side until these white fibrous clots. And like I say, they're finding them very commonly on both the venous and the arterial side.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So another very unusual situation. North Dakota. I have had several cases in 2020 to 2023 of the [00:45:00] white virus clots and most have had COVID listed as a factor on their death certificates. However, in each case, the family did not know if the decedent was vaccinated. I'm in touch with a couple of gentlemen who've actually been trying to get the death certificate records and the vaccination records from their state.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Health departments so they can do a, a, a proper correlation between people who have died and whether they've taken the vaccines or not, and when they took them so they can get the timing information of how close the death was to the person's taking their last. jabs that they will not release that information.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Even red states like Ohio, you know, Florida, Texas will not release those state health records to these individuals so they can do that analysis. And I believe that, and they have told me that there's a lot of cases where they've gone through and they've been able to, uh, through doing some research, looking at obituaries and things like that, [00:46:00] determine the actual person that's, that's listed in some of these.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: more vague certificates. And they have found that these people, they believe that the doctors have, um, actually criminally neglected to mention the COVID vaccine when a person's died and they took the vaccine like within the last 72 hours before they passed away, but it's not mentioned on the death certificate.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know, It's just, it's criminal what's going on in terms of doctors not, uh, properly reflecting the cause of death on the death certificates. And, and as we know, there was an incentive to list COVID as the cause of death. The, uh, I think here in the United States, families would get like 13, 000 from the government to help pay for a funeral of their loved one.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: If the death was listed as COVID, not COVID vaccine, but COVID. And then we also know there was a tremendous financial incentives for the hospital. They got money. For deaths that were listed as COVID [00:47:00] and of course the funeral homes are happy as well Because they know they're going to get paid, you know, the families want to get thirteen thousand dollars So they the funeral home will get paid.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So is so You know, everybody's happy if the, if the death is listed as COVID financially. So I think something sinister is going on here, Sam, and it's unfortunate. You have any thoughts about that?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. It just, it seems like there's been this overwhelming evil drive to, to push the narrative of these, these clot shots.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I mean, that's the best way to describe them. Um, yeah, it's just, it's terrible.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: The very last one here from another one from Florida. Unusual cloths has changed since COVID vaccine. I only took two Pfizer, refused to take booster nor vaccine again. So as you can see in this last comment, uh, this is scaring the embalmers themselves, but you know, they've gone through a lot of psychological damage for the last, uh, They've seen all these horrific clotting that's going on inside these corpses, and it's got them scared.[00:48:00]

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So that's this year's survey. What I'll do, Sam, is, in fact, I've already done, is I, uh, last week, I sent the results of the survey, the PowerPoint presentation that everybody just saw, along with all my supporting SurveyMonkey documents, to the directors for the CDC, FDA, and NIH, asking them to take action on this information, you know.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: But I'll probably wait and send it again in about a month or so, because in about a month or so, uh, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to take over as the head of HHS. Dr. Jay Bhattacharyya is going to take over as the head of NIH. So I want to make sure that the information gets into their hands and is not somehow, you lost or thrown away between now and, you know, late January when these gentlemen take office.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So,

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: yeah, that's, thank you for all your hard work. This is, yeah, this is a difficult subject to cover, um, because it is so delicate. There are so many people that are injured or fearful that they may become injured from this.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And, you know, and I don't like having to do it, [00:49:00] but the reason I did it is I saw that none of these organizations were stepping up, CDC, NIH, FDA, the, the embalmer associations, the funeral director associations around the world.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know, it should be in their charter. Their, uh, mission statements and code of ethics tell them that they need to do investigation and research into things that are affecting embalming. Well, these clots, like I said, they're affecting embalming. You know, as well as the vascular surgeons and the, uh, cath lab workers.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I tried running a survey earlier this year amongst them, and it did not work out well because they refused to answer. I got an email back from the, uh, The U. S. Society for Vascular Surgery. They're located in Rosemont, Illinois, and they have 6, 300 members. I asked them to distribute a survey that I had built for them for those 6, 300 members, and they refused to do so.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So unless these vascular surgeons, endovascular specialists, cardiologists, embalmers, funeral vectors tell us what's going on in the veins and arteries of the dead, We don't know. And as you know, this is important, Sam, [00:50:00] because big farmers not stopping, are they? They're continuing to pump out new mRNA based drugs using the very same lipid nanoparticle technology.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: By the way, you were right on, you told me one of our very first interviews that you suspected the lipid nanoparticle. One of the main drivers of these problems and a group of scientists and myself and Richard Hirschman have been in contact with, have indeed seen that, uh, and they highly suspect and they have strong evidence to show that the phospholipid nanoparticle is contributing to the formation of these white fibrous clots and these micro clots.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, that would make perfect sense. It's technology never used in humans. It's actually, the manufacturer says, do not use it in humans. Not even in animals. And here we are injecting it into people across the world.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yep. Moderna has a new mRNA shot out for the elderly. That's, that's on the market right now on the shelves.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: They tried a couple of weeks ago to get it approved for infants, but they, they were finally shot down. The FDA finally did his job and said no, because the trial data was so [00:51:00] bad. I believe that five of the vaccinated infants Got severe cases of RSV compared to only one that was in the placebo arm. So their vaccine had the exact opposite effect of what they wanted to do.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So if I was an elderly person who had taken the, uh, Moderna's new RSV mRNA based shot, I'd be a little nervous right now because it just got shot down for infants, but you know, they, Moderna's got about 40 of these, uh, new mRNA based shots in the pipeline, you know, for flu, uh, bird flu shingles. Et cetera.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And they want to do combination shots as well. They want to include them with your annual flu shot. And so that, that really confounds the whole issue in case, you know, uh, vaccine injuries start to happen from those. So, you know, it's not just Moderna Pfizer as well. You know, they've banked their whole future on this mRNA technology because it's cheap.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: It's easy for them to do and get products out quickly. But to me, they have not proven that they're safe. [00:52:00] So I tell my loved ones, my friends and family, I advise them not to take any mRNA based product using the lipid nanoparticle technology.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Right, and I want to encourage the listener, if, if you pray, please pray that I, I have put my name in the, in the hat to try and get a voting member's position on the ACIP Council, so that's the Advisory Council on Immunization Policies.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: There will be four positions for a physician to open up in July. And, uh, if, if you were the praying type, please pray that I get one of those positions, because if all of what you say is going to be true, uh, we need someone with reason, uh, to stop this madness.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I agree with you, Sam. And I will pray for you because it's important to get representation on that ACIP committee.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: I think that I can't remember. I think Paul Offit might be sitting on that committee as well. And if, for your viewers, uh, Are not familiar with him. He is one of the ones that actually pushed the vaccines. But then later [00:53:00] on, I admitted in a video that he wasn't taking them himself. And he's an older guy, gray haired guy.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Yeah. He's like, you know, in his sixties or seventies. I don't know how exactly how Paul is, but he's an older gentleman. But he said he didn't think it was right for him. It didn't make sense for him, but yet he was pushing it on the rest of America. So that's the kind of people that we're dealing with.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: This is the kind of people, if you do get on that board, you may have to contend with. So just fair warning to you. Good luck to

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: contend.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: You know what? We need, we need your voice on there. That would be awesome.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, it's, it's simple. Show me your human data. Oh, you don't have any. I want to encourage every listener out there to go to the CDC website, look at the package and search for any vaccine, pick one, doesn't matter.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And you go to section 13. 1. It's the section that talks about, um, does it, was it studied to see if it causes cancer, mutate your genes, or impair fertility? And not a single vaccine was studied in those areas on humans. Not a single one of them. [00:54:00]

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: It's tragic, isn't it? And you In terms of reproduction, people can also go watch a video that Dr.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Dan McDyer did with Dr. Brian Hooker of Children's Health Defense. It's on Rumble. Done about a year ago, or earlier this year or a year ago. And in that video, Dr. Hooker from Children's Health Defense, he says, Dan, can you describe for me what you've been seeing in your OBGYN practice? Dan's also in Jacksonville, Florida.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Um, he says, can you describe what you've been seeing in your OBGYN practice over the last three or four years? For And Dan said, I can describe it for you in one word, carnage. He has seen so, yeah, he's seen so much, uh, problems with miscarriages, stillbirths, um, premenopausal bleeding, postmenopausal bleeding, all from women who have taken the COVID 19 vaccine.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So he's a staunch critic of the vaccine as well. This is coming from a medical doctor. Like I said, he sees [00:55:00] women, you know, many women daily in his, in his practice. So

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: that's

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: all

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: have for you, Sam.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you so much for coming on, sharing your information. Keep up the good fight. Keep doing this great work.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: You and your team. Um, I also want to give your team credit. Cause it's, you know, this isn't just you, although I know you're doing the lion's share of it. Um, I want to appreciate everything you're doing.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And that reminds me, uh, I'll shout out to my assistant, Lori Kastner, who's been documenting all of our, all of our work on a sub stack that's called Clot tastrophe.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So if people want to go to Clot tastrophe, they can see, uh, the survey that we just did here that we finished two weeks ago, as well as this previous surveys we did. Some other interesting articles, like three months ago, I went and actually saw Tucker Carlson in person. In Hershey, Pennsylvania. I handed him a vial of the cloths and one to his producer, Samantha.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: So in hopes that I get on their show [00:56:00] to talk more about this in front of a very large, you know, American audience. So I'm trying, we're trying to get the word out there as best we can about, remember, this is just one of the many side effects of the COVID vaccines. I think it's the most spectacular one because you can see it, right?

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: And these plots, you know, pictures worth a thousand words, but you can see these things physically. So wish us luck and good luck to you getting on the ASAP Sam.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yes, sir. And we'll be praying for you. Thank you so much. God bless.

Ret Air Force Maj Tom Haviland: Bye bye.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Just a reminder for everyone out there, duty uniform of the day, the full armor of God, let's all make courage more contagious than [00:57:00] fear.