99. Karolina Stancik and Toxic Leadership

99. Karolina Stancik and Toxic Leadership
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Specialist Karolina Stancik: [00:00:00] I went in for my appointment and this individual, obviously registered nurse, decides to tell me, hey, why are you here? And I said for chest pain. And she says, look around. I look around the waiting room and she says, we look busy, don't we? And I said, yes, ma'am. Obviously respecting rank. And she goes, come back another day.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And that was heart attack number one.

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Specialist Karolina Stancik: Hi, Sam. Thank you so much for having me on your show. Before I start, obviously, [00:02:00] still in, so every opinion, thought, view experience will be my own and it won't be representing the DoD or the U. S. Army. With that being said, I joined the military in February of 2021. That was right around the time that the military decided to start mandating a vaccine that we didn't know much about.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And I received the vaccine in March and April of 2021. Since then, I've experienced a pretty drastic responses from the vaccine. Three heart attacks later, a mini stroke, a diagnosis with POTS. Postular orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. I just recently got diagnosed with mitral valve prolapse. And on top of that, I have severe asthma as well of, as well as pending neurological.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: How, and if you don't answer any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering, but how old were you when you first joined the military? And what medical issues did you have prior to getting the shot? And which [00:03:00] shot did you get?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I was 21 years old when I joined the military, had just turned 21, and I...

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Oh no! What was the other question? I'm so sorry.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It's okay. I know it's okay, there's a lot of questions. Which shot did you get, and what medical issues did you have prior to joining the military?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I actually got the Moderna vaccine one and two. So both of those were attributed. Both of those contributed to my medical conditions.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I've never had any medical conditions leading up to that. I was playing five sports year round. Between basketball, soccer, swim, softball, cross country, things like that, and never seen the inside of a hospital, don't know much about the medical field leading up to that point.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. You're like most young people that join, and join when they're young.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Most are very healthy, and no medical issues, but then life changed, and you said it was in March when it, when life significantly [00:04:00] started changing for you, is that right? Correct. So take me down that road.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So when I first got the vaccine in the first 24 hours, I had a headache. I had sinus infection symptoms, stuffy nose, pressure in my face and my head.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I was a little bit dizzy. And that was pretty typical, like the shortness of breath. That's pretty much how the sinus infection symptoms go. I was told to not report to drill the next day because of my symptoms appearing as COVID, right? That was normal symptoms for the COVID vaccine that I was told.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Second vaccine when I got it in April of 2021, I had experienced all of that, but on top of that dizziness, high heart rate, pins and needle feelings throughout my whole body pretty much feels like a tattoo throughout your whole body. And I also was experiencing my first fever my whole life. Wow.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Now, so to help parallel our stories, because our stories do come together even though we've never [00:05:00] met before.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: At this time, I'm in Alaska, and I'm consenting my patients. Usually it's beneficiaries and talking to the spouses, saying, Hey, what do you, what are you willing to accept? So you're read on a list if your spouse doesn't get this, okay. And I would tell them these are the potential concerns that I have is the ingredients in Pfizer and in Moderna are these lipid nanoparticles.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And if you look at the material safety data sheets on them, they're not valid for human use. They're not valid for, validated for veterinary use. And so I would like to believe that many of my patients ended up not getting it because of that counseling that I got. But it seems that you never got any counseling like that.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: No physician ever spoke to you about the realities of this.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Not at all. I was working at the hospital in a surgical center at the time when I received the vaccine. That's not who administered it, right? I got sent to Fort Pickett, Virginia to go get the vaccine. But at the time when I was working during the week, I was in [00:06:00] that surgical department and I would see the news with different updates and they would talk about the J and J with the blood clots or whatever it was.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They would say it was rare, but it was. Something that they had seen, and I was never informed of any of that for Moderna or Pfizer, but those were none of the things that were being broadcast at the time. And the medical providers that had spoken to us, if there were even truly medical providers, had definitely not disclosed any of that information.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Did you remember any of the counseling that you received by the physician beforehand? Is it just yeah, it'll help you.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They told us that we would have a sore arm, potentially some COVID symptoms. And that was that. And, oh, and on top of that so they made us wait 20 minutes after. You didn't have any symptoms within 20 minutes, then you were free to go.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And did they, they counsel you at all about, potential risk of being pregnant, and how you should not take this [00:07:00] if you're pregnant or be, trying to become pregnant or any, breastfeeding or anything like that?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Nothing at all.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And I want to remind all the listeners that...

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Honestly, that wouldn't even have crossed my mind.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And, typically young... It's... That's not something, but as a physician, that is something that needs to be discussed. Especially when all of the tests we now have learned specifically excluded pregnant and breastfeeding women.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: In fact, went so far as to say it told the men who were in the study to not get your partner pregnant until at least 60 days after your last shot.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I remember hearing that, but not through any of the providers that I had spoken to directly.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: All that information was hidden and covered at the time.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It didn't come out till sometime later. I believe it was in 2022 when that information finally came out. Yep. But doctors didn't care. They didn't care to ask. They were just like everybody gets it. Even if you've had anaphylaxis to it in the past, we'll have an EpiPen ready. I've actually heard that from an, from someone who knows a allergist.[00:08:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. Not much to say to that one. That's terrible. Yeah. Okay. So let's keep going down that road. So you got the first shot and then you had some issues and then the second shot, was there more issues at that point?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: There was more issues at that point. So I had already discussed the fever that I had never experienced until that day.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: It was pretty much all night and I was in bed for about four days. And I was just told these are uncommon, it's uncommon that you are experiencing this much or this many symptoms this soon. But they had said it's possible, right? And so I was given ibuprofen, things like that. And I just took that, went home, slept, and prayed that things got better.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Give it about a month, and then I was in basic training, and my health had just completely done a 180. It went from, cold symptoms, sinus infection symptoms, back to, a severe cold and trouble breathing. It progressed over the next eight weeks and turned into [00:09:00] what they thought was bronchitis.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And I was prescribed multiple medications, inhalers, and was experiencing really bad dizziness, coughing up blood, high heart rate, all those things.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Coughing blood. Wow.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And where'd you do basic at?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I was at Portland, Irwood.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. And did they take care, , did they take care of your medical issues, and did they take them seriously, or did, because you were private did they oh, whatever, this is just sick call, it's no big deal?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Sick Hall, no big deal, didn't do any real testing on me, and just pretty much handed me medication, said go back to your company.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I did, and I was told, obviously if you go to Sick Hall, you have to be wise of when you do it, otherwise you're not going to graduate basic, and at that point, everyone's just trying to get through basic, because who wants to get recycled?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: No one. Okay. And. And this interview I'm doing with you is going to be published just after another interview I did with another [00:10:00] service member, and he's a senior Sergeant First Class who had some issues with his chain of command and then requesting HIPAA information from him.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And so if you've had any experience of why are you going to the doctor? What is the diagnosis that's taking you to the doctor? Please mention that too, because that is, seems to be rampant throughout the military, and it's completely illegal.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I definitely had a lot of HIPAA complaints, things like that. One big case that I had experienced was, they took my my name and my information, right? And they supposed, this could be a mistake, it could be... I don't know what was really going on, but it just seemed to be very common for my eight months in Fort Huachuca that they had mixed me up with another girl at a completely different company and were calling her with my medical information and leaving her voicemails about my Holter monitor results sending my Holter monitor to different locations, things like that.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And they were talking about, Hey, you need these procedures, these [00:11:00] appointments. And then also I found out from my platoon that they were discussing my appointments with my platoon. As to why they could or could not have me go to those appointments. And so my platoon versus my drill sergeants were coming to me and telling me, Hey, stanzak, your things are getting canceled.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Or, hey, this is what they told us. And then I would go down to the drill sergeant office and ask them, Hey, what's going on, right? Give them a chance to say it for themselves. And I would get completely different answers. And then I would call the next day. For instance, I called the next day to Fort Bliss, Texas, where I was receiving care.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And asked them what's going on. I need a phone recording. I need something to verify what is going on. And they said that your appointments got canceled. On literally bold faced lies.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And just so the listener knows, the only one who's allowed to speak to the doctor, to the physician, is the company commander or a commander who is designated a commander.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Not the first sergeant, [00:12:00] not the drill sergeant. And even then, the physician is not allowed to spill specific HIPAA information. Let's say you saw me as a patient because I was the medical director for a period of time while you were there, and unfortunately I had no idea that the situation with you was going on.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: But let's say your commander needed to talk to me, I would say yes, you're having some serious medical issues, and Consider you out of training until further notice or consider you just excuse you for all of your appointments if you don't need to be completely removed from training. But I cannot say the diagnosis.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I can't say, the specifics only how it affects the mission. And with the last interview I did, his master sergeant was requesting specific diagnoses, which is completely inappropriate,

Specialist Karolina Stancik: right? And I think on top of that, the other issue is that, obviously. Things happen, miscommunication happens, and things get lost in translation, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: But, to a certain extent, how much grace can you give? [00:13:00] Because, my appointments are getting cancelled, but they have to be verified by date of birth, and social security number, and by my name. So who is providing that information, right? And they're literally putting out my information to whoever, by whoever.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Without my consent.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And the two identifiers, name and date of birth of the patient, they're not given by the medical provider. I don't call you and go, Hey, is this so and so with your date of birth of such and such? I say verify. Yeah, can you tell me your date of birth? Okay, now I've verified it.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so that clearly wasn't done, or your health information was being put into the wrong patient chart. Because how else would they look you up and find the wrong number?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And the other thing that had happened, right? So I did my own investigation because they told me I had 2 years to use that phone recording.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I decided to call back probably 2 months ago. I called Fort Bliss, Texas. I asked them about, hey, I want to pull up this phone recording by this [00:14:00] person. This person is who I spoke to a it was like the lead. Of appointment lines. I don't really know her position, but basically the head of it. So I gave her name and they said, Oh, actually she doesn't work here anymore.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And so I was like, okay, so can I still get that phone recording? And they were like, no, there's nothing we can do about it. And I said per her, and this is her phone number. This is her position, right? This is what she told me. I have two years to use this phone recording. And they said we can pull up this and this.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So those things were that they could pull up when my appointments were made. What appointments I attended and when I was there, right? And so I said, okay, pull up any appointments that you guys have scheduled for me. Pull up when I attended those appointments and any cancellations. And the appointments that had been scheduled for me, which I had emails verifying those scheduled appointments, all of a sudden didn't exist in their database.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And then on top of that, there was appointments that were supposedly made. That a provider I will be careful of saying [00:15:00] their name, but a provider at Fort Huachuca who actually signed me in and said that I was there in Texas. And I was actually in Arizona at 5 45 in the morning.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. I just want to caution you, let's not use any names to avoid any lawsuits, but there are times where I will suggest and you and I spoke prior to this, that there is a nurse and again, let's refrain from using names who I believe you need to figure out where she has a license and put a complaint against her license.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And okay. So that's what's going on now. So at some point you eventually moved to Fort Huachuca. Is that right? What point do you, what point did you move to Fort Huachuca?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I was in Fort Huachuca, August of 2021. Okay. And just for that month, I left end of February, 2022.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. Yeah. I was medical director from July to September.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. They removed me that quickly.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Just overlapped. [00:16:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And during your short stay at Fort Huachuca Now, I remember you telling me a story of you went to sick call because you were having some issues. Can you tell that story?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I did. So I went to sick call September. I want to say was within three weeks of being there.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I was still undergoing the medications and the treatment plan that Fort Leonard Wood had given me right before I graduated basic training. So I went to Fort Huachuca, things got worse. I was taking my physical fitness test. I was blacking out. I was dizzy. I was dealing with Throwing up. Not throwing up, but coughing up blood again, and it felt like what was, a lot of chest pain, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So felt like palpitations, things like that. I didn't really think of what I was experiencing. I just knew what it felt like and that I probably should report it because it was getting worse. So I went to sickle almost, I want to say in like the first three months that I was there, I went at least three times a week.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: either reporting symptoms or they would give me appointments and things like [00:17:00] that to follow up.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so let me give a little insight into someone showing up to sick call three times a week. Cause you would think, wow the normal thought should be, wow, this person is ill and they haven't been treated appropriately.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: That's why they keep coming back. That's what you should think. And that's what everyone in the world should think. But unfortunately, in reality when someone shows up to sick call, they get this there's this idea It's always around that, oh, this person's showing up, they must be trying to get out of training.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: They must be a dirtbag, right? Yeah. There's no way they could have serious medical issues that never went unresolved, and that's why they keep coming back. Even though that's the reality of the situation. When I was in residency, I learned, if someone comes to the ER, treat them. If you can't find any reason to treat them, then okay, then get them out the door and get them set up with an appointment.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: If they come back again... You missed something. Something is wrong with this patient and you need to be careful that they don't die. You gotta figure this out. And if you can't figure it out, and let's say they come back a third time, give it to a different [00:18:00] doctor who has clear eyes that can see what could be the problem.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And you were going three times a week. Now, sick call is not exactly the emergency room, but it's as close as you can get without having to be driven off by an ambulance.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah. I was getting seen obviously three times a week. They were making appointments for me and it pretty much was just the same old this, what you're experiencing.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So they would give me a profile, for chest pain or they diagnosed this, what they put on my profile was asthma. And I had not had any sort of. formal diagnosis for asthma. They had also put on my profile, I had a rib injury, aka fractured ribs from coughing so much. And I had not had any scans done.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So there's these big claims being made that are not technically true. And I'm getting treated as basically I'm incapable of performing duties. But they were not even sitting there and testing everything under the sun.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Like it's [00:19:00] fraud to put in diagnoses that haven't been verified.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And so there was one point where you came in and was it due to chest pain or was it a different symptom? And then this particular nurse told you to look around. Go ahead and share that story if you can.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Oh, so not even a nurse service member. She had told me to come.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: That captain is a nurse that captain is a registered nurse.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yes. Oh, good. Okay. So I suggest you find her information, figure out where she's licensed and put a complaint against her license for this story that you're about to tell.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Awesome. Okay. So for about two and a half weeks, I was experiencing what felt like a balloon in my chest, right? And it would.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Expand, push up against my sternum, cause severe pain, and then it would slowly deflate. That's the sensation I was getting. You could call that a palpitation. That's pretty much what I was experiencing, but I didn't really ever know what that felt like [00:20:00] before. And so that's just the closest I could come up with.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I went into the clinic actually three times in one day. So I went earlier than I was supposed to because they said, Hey, you're having chest pain. Go to the clinic for sick call. So I go to sick hall. That's at 5 in the morning, right? I'm missing PT for this. I go to sick hall. I said, Hey, I have chest pain.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They were like, okay, come back. You already have an appointment. And then someone else said, no, actually, we're going to move your appointment earlier. So I go back in. I walk into the door and this individual, right?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Can I pause you for a second that you're going to a clinic for chest pain in your chest, and they're sending you to a clinic appointment and scheduling you for an appointment later that day.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: That is mind boggling because if I were to ever hear, Oh, you have chest pain? Let's call the ambulance. Let's get you to the ER to make sure it's not something life threatening. And then once we know that it's not life threatening, then we'll have you in the clinic later today. And if you go to the emergency room and it is life threatening, don't worry, we'll cancel your [00:21:00] appointment.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: We'll get you back in whenever you get released from the hospital. But that's not what they did. We're going to schedule an appointment for your chest pain.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I went in for my appointment and this individual, obviously registered nurse decides to tell me, Hey, why are you here? And I said for chest pain.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And she says, look around. I look around the waiting room and she says, we look busy, don't we? And I said, yes, ma'am. Obviously respecting rank. And she goes, come back another day. And I was like, Yes, ma'am. So I turned around went back to the barracks told my drill sergeant and I said, hey, you know I don't know what to do I'm experiencing this and they had been tracking my situation at that point right drill surgeons are only gonna have so much room to work with and They had suggested which the first time this was ever brought to my attention that you can call a register Oh, the nurse hotline right and they tell you where to go And so nurse hotline was like you need to go to the ER like now so [00:22:00] I went and that was heart attack number one.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Very I don't even, it was like very uneventful.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: I can't stress this enough that you were having chest pain. That's one of the big red flags of, hello, symptom, problem needs to be addressed immediately. They scheduled an appointment for you after hearing you had chest pain. Then a registered nurse who is also a captain.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Again, you must you must put a complaint against your license. Yeah. Said, look around, it's busy, why don't you go back to training. When you were there for your scheduled appointment for chest pain, wow! If I knew any of this was going on, I would've, oh, heads, oh, it would've been bad.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah. I'm new to the medical community at this point, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: This is the first time I've really seen medical field and like what it entails. I'm not expecting to hear at 21 years old that, hey, you had a heart attack, whether it's minor or not, right? It's still damage to the heart. [00:23:00] And so at this point, I'm 21, right? So I'm just like, oh my God, what is happening? And they gave me, wait for it, aspirin and pain medication.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Did you stay in the hospital?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Probably eight hours. And then they released me, and I was on bed rest for two days.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And being a lay person, not a medical professional, I would expect you to have no idea that chest pain is such a big deal. That's not your responsibility. That's the nurse's responsibility.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: That's the medic's responsibility. That's the doctor's responsibility to, To go, Oh, you're complaining of chest pain. Let's get you to the emergency room. Not to a scheduled clinic appointment that ends up getting cancelled because some nurse suggests that you should leave.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And I laugh about it now because I'm like, honestly, looking back, you couldn't get any dumber in decision making.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It was [00:24:00] completely selfish decision making. It's, there's too much work to be done today. And I'd rather you go home and not deal with it. I don't care what happens to you as a person. You could drop dead because it's chest pain.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: But I don't really care. I just want to do less work.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And the fact that appointment would not have been documented specifically for chest pain, right? Once I get seen by a provider, they put that in their notes. But if I don't even see a provider, no one's putting that in their notes to say, Hey, we have we understand where this soldier is.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: We know where the soldier is because of chest pain, blah, blah, blah. They got sent to the ER, all that. There's probably no record in that system that says that I went there that day for chest pain, other than what papers I have.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it because if you didn't, even if you had a scheduled appointment, if it didn't say for chest pain and they cancel it, it's gone forever.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. Wow. Okay, so let's keep going down the road of what happened.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I got diagnosed late October, so that was October 18th, specifically. I [00:25:00] got diagnosed with asthma without any proper diagnosis, right? They put that on my profile, that chest pain is being caused by asthma, shortness of breath is being caused by asthma, whatever.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: That's a different provider at the exact same clinic who is putting all these statements in. November comes around. Yeah. November comes around and they said, if you want to see a pulmonologist and mind you, I've probably been in that clinic about 11, 12 times in a month. So I'm doing my followups and I'm requesting providers different providers.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And. They tell me, Hey, you need a pulmonologist, right? For breathing issues. So I'm like, okay, I call every pulmonologist that I was allowed to write within the TRICARE system. That would be covered. They said I wasn't going to get seen until that May. So we're October to May. That's about eight months. Wow.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Eight months waiting to find some sort of help for breathing. Okay. So [00:26:00] if it's a life altering condition, why are we waiting eight months? I don't know. They told me because of COVID. So I was like, there's got to be another way. My godfather, retired Lieutenant Colonel, he. Got on the phone with me and he was like no.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: There's a bigger medical facility in Texas. It's called Fort bliss. And he was like, you need to push for that. So went back to the clinic. I said, you guys like, is there anything else? Can I go to, Fort bliss? Can I go to what's the one in DC? I forget what it's called.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Walter Reed there's a BAMC in San Antonio, which is a massive medical center.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: In fact, what's insane about this is during this time, maybe just before this happened, because I was suspended on 13 September of 21 probably early August, I was talking to my nursing staff about A spouse of a service member who was recently diagnosed with MS and couldn't see a neurologist shortly after receiving Moderna.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Never had any problems with [00:27:00] MS prior to Moderna, got Moderna, had a flare of MS. Couldn't be seen by any neurologist in the state for about 8 months or so. And so they put in a request for medical TDY. Which is, you get moved to a new location just for medical reasons. They should have done that for you.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: You shouldn't even have to me, but yeah.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I had to go through another training. I had to, in the letter I wrote to my commander, right? This is the second company I was with. I requested, I was like, Anything for me to get better medical attention and my symptoms to get better. I will take it at this point.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I give them three options. I said, I've done my research. I understand your position and the power you have. I understand my rank and the power I probably don't really have but this is what I do now. And I gave them three options and I said i'm willing to do any of these three options. They moved me to Virginia to complete a second training so I [00:28:00] could receive medical care.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: But that's the thing is they can move you to a different medical facility Just to receive medical care like in San Antonio

Specialist Karolina Stancik: refused to do it My godfather called battalion commander and asked about it and they were like it's not happening

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow So like in San Antonio, they actually have housing for service members because they know people go there and stay there while they're being treated So they actually have specific housing just for certain It's very nice housing just for service members to be treated at the hospital.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: You know what the nurse case manager told me We only do that for people that have the s like the issues as severe as cancer. So they said if you don't have cancer, you're not dying right now. That's not gonna happen. Heart attacks told. Yeah. So the 21 year old, they told me that. They said they flew someone there.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They told me they flew someone there with cancer and I was like, okay.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Which by the way is on the rise since people who have been receiving these [00:29:00] shots. Okay. So you ended up get moving, moved to Virginia, is that right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I got moved to Virginia. Yep. Fort Lee. Right where it all started.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And you received treatment there? Yeah. Okay.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yep, at the Naval Medical Center.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Okay. And did that treatment help? Treatment. Did they only treat your lungs, or did they refuse to admit that it could possibly be the shot, and most likely the shot?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I mean with I want to say I was in the hospital about six or seven times in my time in Arizona, right? So that's a lot of hospital visits. I was then also taken to the hospital again in Virginia I was only there for two two and a half months. So Almost a hospital visit every month. They didn't really treat anything other than my asthma and they had put me on all these inhalers and medications and what not.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: But everything was like, oh we're going to run this test and we're going to run that test. We're going to do this blood work and we're going to do that blood work. [00:30:00] But nothing was definite on what kind of treatment plan they wanted to have me on. I had still yet to see a cardiologist. So mind you, this is two heart attacks later.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And I still have never ever seen a cardiologist until April.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It just boggles my mind, because if they say you had a heart attack, that means they drew troponins, which is a blood lab that shows if there's heart damage. And if you have positive troponins, then you've had a heart attack. And it's not a lung issue.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: There could be a concomitant lung issue, like both happening at the same time. But if you have positive troponins, you have had a heart attack. And you need to see a cardiologist. Wow.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah. Like time now, . Yeah, so I was in with Fort Lee, Virginia waiting, obviously to get seen by a cardiologist.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I saw a pulmonologist, I got a echocardiogram done while I was at the Naval Medical Center. And they had me doing a workup with the allergy clinic as well, because apparently [00:31:00] I was allergic to everything under the sun. That was something new to me as well. That was like the least of my concerns, but obviously that with your breathing is not a good situation.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So they were concerned about that, but I left there. I got released from active duty to be precise. I got released from active duty and they said, if we don't tell you anything, then you're good to go. And at this point, I knew what I was supposed to, I knew what was supposed to happen, right? I knew they weren't supposed to release me from active duty with all these medical conditions that were either one undiagnosed, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And still pending evaluations, or two, they don't have any treatment plan or didn't fix me. At this point, I'm tired of the medical system within the military. I'm getting pushed around doctor to doctor, state to state, and provider to provider. I was like, enough's enough. I'd rather just go home and figure this out and not do their job for them.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: So what you just mentioned is Which, which [00:32:00] you did not mention, and I want to bring attention to this also, is the idea of a line of duty. When you're on reserve time and let's say you get injured, you do a parachute jump, and let's say you break your ankle, before you leave that active duty time, you get what they call a line of duty, meaning this injury happened in the line of duty.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And they failed you in that sense. They did not give you that line of duty, which means that TRICARE will not continue to pay. And that's what you're experiencing now. Is that correct?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah. 100%. 70, 000 later. Wow.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And you have a give, send, go set up. Is that correct? Yeah. And I'll put the link down below. Yeah, I do.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Please consider giving.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So it's crazy because, yeah, I obviously released from active duty without any line of duty. I was sent to my unit and I had, I think it was my third or fourth Holter monitor. I was prescribed. In that time being. [00:33:00] And so I had told my unit, I was like, Hey you guys want us to report for drill this month.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And let's say it was a week or two from that point. And I said, I have a whole term on it or on, I cannot sweat with this thing. Cause it'll come off and they're doing, an evaluation on me. I'm on a profile as well. And what did they tell me? They said, don't come in. You're on a medical eval.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Don't worry about it. Then there was paperwork I had to do just as a reservist, whatever, in processing that I needed to do to go to my next unit. From your initial unit to your your home unit, right? I guess you could call it. They were supposed to do paperwork with me. I went in, like I was told to, and the sergeant there had no idea that I was supposed to be there.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And what did I do for eight hours that day? I built bikes. They had me build bikes. I didn't fill out a single ounce of paperwork. Then I emailed them, I called them, and everything for months on end, and didn't receive any sort of [00:34:00] notification back as to what was going on. So October rolls around, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: This is April to October. Count the months on that one. No sort of news. I had no idea. And I was like, I'm gonna go to Florida because that's where my family is. That's where the best medical care is. And at this point, I'm on my own. They've literally abandoned me at this point. Wow.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And the bills were pouring in from active duty as well. I was getting billed for active duty time as well.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And this is an issue I ran into early when I first got out of residency is when I was in Oklahoma, there was, let's say a private who went to see a doctor for whatever reason in the civilian world and was supposed to be completely covered by TRICARE.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And the contract between the doctor and TRICARE is if you bill TRICARE, you do not bill the patient. Because TRICARE covers it. And the patient was coming to me, concerned, because they had a 5, 000 bill.[00:35:00] That's illegal for them to do that. It's not legal for the doctor to charge TRICARE and charge the patient.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: It's medical fraud. And, I talked to our billing department at our hospital and they fixed that issue. But you should not be receiving bills if they billed TRICARE.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I honestly, I was shocked. I was like, oh, $800 here, $2,500 here for blood work. I was like, oh, they're charging me for the CT scans that the Army sent me to go get.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I was like, that's insane. And then I call, and they said if you don't hear anything back then it's gonna be this much money. And oh yeah, wait for this number, 35,000 plus dollars for me to cover. And I was like, that's not even the amount included into what I had said about $70,000. I believe that amount had gotten, that 35, 000 had been wiped out.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: But at that point there's still multiple thousands of dollars and all the thousands and thousands of dollars from hospital visits I've had since then. [00:36:00]

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And eventually what they'll do is they'll send you a couple notices, then you'll put you in collections and they'll destroy your credit.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: If that didn't already happen, say that with a grain of salt because it's starting to happen.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. And I want to encourage the listeners, please go take a look at her gifts and go, the link is down below and give whatever you can to help her.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So it's been quite the uphill battle.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so now you're in Florida. Is that correct? I am in Florida. Yep. Okay. And receiving treatments, are things getting better or are they about the same?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Things seem to be getting better, but it's if it's not one thing, it's another, right? And so I'm trying to go the holistic route, because at this point, Western medicine has completely failed.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They just keep prescribing, and they tell me, we see something on the scanner. We see whatever it is, right? So they saw something wrong with my spine, something that they could do surgery on. And I guess because I'm 23, they [00:37:00] don't care to do it. They wanted to give me an antidepressant used as a anti nerve pain agent.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They gave that to me and it completely sent my heart into an arrhythmia. Was having it pause for seconds on end. And on top of that, I was waking up at 180 heart rate, just opening my eyes. That was probably a month ago. I was seen in urgent care in May for another heart attack. So that's number three.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And it's just there's, there was a seven month period where I was out of the hospitals and I was okay. And then obviously. You don't know until it happens. And then there's like really big spikes and when those spikes and flares happen, it's just terrible. But I don't wanna keep going back to the doctor.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So there's, someone's gotta cut some slack at some point. .

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. And I would encourage you if you haven't already if you're still willing to give Western medicine a try look at F L C and see if you can find a doctor that's been trained in how to treat vaccine injury patients.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: 'cause they did a whole convention [00:38:00] in Fort Worth at the beginning part of this year. I attended it, and there's many doctors there, and there's probably many of them in Florida that would be able to treat you for the issues that you're going through.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah I guess I would have to go and look at those doctors, right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I'm talking about like modern day Western medicine where the doctors are there for like ego, or whatever, or the clout, I guess to say that, Hey, yeah, I'm a doctor. Yeah. I'm a cardiologist in the Tampa region or yeah, I'm a neurologist and whatever. And the neurologist passes me off to the PA who completely butchers a skin biopsy.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So I'm on a blood thinner because I have clotting now from all of this. Crap. And I'm on a blood thinner too, actually. So one was Eloquist. And if you know anything about Eloquist, usually old people are on that, but they put me on that as a preventative measure on top of an adult aspirin every day.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I made sure that the neurologist was aware of that. That was documented that I was in there. They put that in [00:39:00] their records. Day of the skin biopsy, right? They didn't tell me to ever get off of it. They said, oh, you're not on that much of a blood thinner. So it won't be an issue. It's just three small incisions in your leg.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: In my leg. So I have POTS. All the blood stays in my legs to begin with. Why I black out all the time. Doesn't take a doctor to know this. Going for the biopsy. And I was like, just a reminder, I am on blood thinners. In case you guys are not prepared for that. Oh yeah. That's fine. It won't be that big of an issue.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: We'll just put pressure on it. I go back and they had documented before they met with me that day that we confirmed with the patient she is not on blood thinners. And let me tell you, I bled for four days after. Four days. Within three minutes, I was back in their office I'm dripping blood down my leg, you guys need to fix this.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: It was taking I was taping and gauzing my leg in three different locations for four days, [00:40:00] and it's still not healed, and it was like three weeks ago.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah, I would not, personally, I would have sent you to someone else to do that biopsy, if it needed to be done with that kind of medication on board. And there's no reversal agents for Eliquis. Which is why it's not such a great thing for young people, because if you bang your head, you get in a car wreck, we can't reverse it.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Exactly. That's the stuff that I'm experiencing, and I don't know what it is with the medical community. And at this point, I don't think that it's just me going through this, right? This may be flaws across the board, where there's just carelessness, recklessness, I don't know. These providers are not taking it seriously.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And they look at me, they're like, you're 23, there's nothing we can do for you.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow. And one thing that you have to understand, looking at it from the other side, is these people have an idol. And that idol is the shot. And quote, science. The science, as they say. And to [00:41:00] insult the science is to insult them specifically, as Fauci had said.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And what you're doing is you're poking holes in their belief system. And just the mere presence of you being there and being injured by this shot is poking holes in their belief system. And now this may not be every doctor that you've seen, but this is the driving force as to why it would seem like these doctors are acting like complete idiots.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And not doing what's appropriate why nurses are sending you home, or sending you back to training when you're there for chest pain. Poking holes in their God

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: sounds about right.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: So what are the next steps for you

Specialist Karolina Stancik: next steps? Trying to go integrative medicine, trying to go holistic route. Just treat my body from like the core at this point. A lot of rest. I've been focusing on my sleep schedule, things like that, natural remedies, infrared saunas, laser therapy. [00:42:00] That's pretty much the route.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I've been going IV therapy. There was a doctor who put me on IV therapy and I've noticed a big change in it. Positive impact. It's made on me personally speaking. And obviously I've been speaking out as well. So that's what I'm looking at, but. Everything's up in the air now fighting the VA as well.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So yeah, it's been a crazy couple of years and I know it's going to be a crazier year and a half.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. One thing that I want to stress is that this is your story and this is happening to you, but this is not, unfortunately, this is not a unique story. This happens to many people who are unwilling to don't have the means to speak about it or don't have the means to be able to get treatment.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so I want to encourage you to keep speaking about this as you are a leader now. People will turn to you and look for courage and strength that, Oh, maybe it was the shot that hurt me. Oh, I need to keep speaking out so that I can receive the treatment that I need. And then... As that continues, you will still continue to be a [00:43:00] leader,

Specialist Karolina Stancik: right?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And I guess it's also that if people don't understand what was the only difference in their life, where they went from 100% healthy, I was able to run a 10 miler every single week. And that was what I was doing. I was like, just my physical training. And that's the physical capabilities I had, I was doing that every single week.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And. Going from that to sitting there and being like, standing up is really difficult, right? Because I'm blacking out or even the depression that it's associated with to get up out of bed and go take a shower or Go to the gym step foot out of your door is like a big task now, right? And I know i'm not the only one experiencing that and so people need to start opening their eyes to What is the only thing that changed?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I didn't do anything different except that

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: and that's exactly what Dr. Chambers, Dr. Long, and I tried to show when we released the DMED data, the Defense Military Epidemiologic Database, that showed [00:44:00] horrible injuries to the fighting force, because it was only of the active duty military population, and it showed increase in blood pressure, increase in clots, increase in testicular cancer, ovarian cancer, heart attacks, strokes, all of these issues.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And we never made the claim that the shot caused it. We made the claim that nothing else changed other than the shot and we need to take a knee and immediately stop the vaccination, which they're not even vaccines. Stop the shot process.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah. Stop the shot, please. So I got a text message. This is just for a story.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I got a text message about three days ago, right? And this is after we found out every single possible negative thing that this shot has done to anyone from ages. Infants to old people, especially the younger generation. And there's a survey, or I guess you could say a what are they? [00:45:00] It's like an experiment or a trial.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah, it would be a trial that these parents would sign up for if your kid is one and under, one years old and under, basically a newborn to go and get their kid a shot for 1, 200.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Wow. That's so sick and disgusting. That's only 1, 200 that goes in the parent's, yeah, that's 1, 200 that goes in the parent's pocket. And we see what shots and vaccines have done to kids with like autism rates and different disorders, physical, neurological, psychological disorders that have taken place over the years and have become more and more common.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: That's so much money. That they're putting back in their own pocket. So yeah, I'm sure 1, 200 is worth it. If you're making millions off of one kid dying at such a young age.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And who in their right mind would allow their child to be experimented upon like that? Man, that's mind blowing. People that are

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Desperate for money.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Imagine anyone that has [00:46:00] two brain. Okay. I don't want to say it like that, but anyone that has done the research, right? Anyone that has done their research and understands what. These types of groups that want money and are money hungry, anyone that understands that will sit there and be like, something's wrong with this situation.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Why are they paying us to inject our kid with something that we're not even sure is healthy for our kid? Why? Our children should not be experiments. Yeah. And then on top of that, we have this other this influx in people with pulmonary issues, post vaccine, right? And post COVID, whatever, long haul COVID and post vaccine injury, they're coming into the pulmonary clinics for testing.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: And they're getting pulmonary function tests. And I was in there because this most recent hospitalization and I'm seeing the pulmonologist, the doctor himself. His guy that does the testing is actually contracted with the DOD. He comes in and he goes, Hey, so we have a [00:47:00] pregnant woman over there.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Is it safe for us to do a pulmonary function test on her? Given that she's two months pregnant, he's, obviously, because she's two months pregnant, worried about the baby they're giving the mother albuterol as treatment to see how much it, it's affecting her. They might do a methylcholine challenge test, whatever it may be, and he goes, that's basically not pregnant.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Why does it matter?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Wow, I

Specialist Karolina Stancik: was like, oh, my gosh. Yes. If you don't care about the smallest things, you will never ever care about people as a whole. You really won't. People are just heartless.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And that's one of the things that's come out of COVID and in a strange way, it's a good thing that we can see how heartless and how evil so many doctors have been and even nurses who have told patients with chest pain, having heart attacks to go home, go back to training.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Yeah. How heartless can you be? How uncaring? [00:48:00] And. And in my opinion, not needing to continue to be a nurse, and that's why I want to strongly encourage you to go report that behavior to that nursing board wherever she has a nurse, nursing license, because that is completely unacceptable.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Yeah, I guess after this, I'm going to ask you a couple of questions regarding that and see how I can navigate that route.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Sure. I don't want to say it on air.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you. Yeah, we'll talk after. Awesome. And I want to encourage the listeners, if you haven't gone back and listened to my episode 33, please go back and listen to episode 33. What I do in that episode is I use all public source documentation to show you how I believe that the shot itself, not the video.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Not the illness, but the shot itself is a bioweapon developed in part by China. And I took that information as soon as I stumbled across it, I took it to the garrison commander of Fort Huachuca and I got some crazy looks and he said you may be right, but you got to keep fighting that.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: outside of the [00:49:00] military and the reason I brought that to his attention is if only 1% of what I postulate is correct, 1% of it correct, not a 1% chance of it being correct, even a 1% chance of it being correct, everything needs to be stopped immediately and no one in the United States should be allowed to even get it, even if they wanted to, they shouldn't be allowed to have it.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Florida is trying to ban it completely, make it a crime. I know there was a couple other states in the Midwest that had banned it completely, made it a misdemeanor, felony, whatever it was, I forget. But, yeah.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And I've got some connections to people in Florida, and I was trying to get my affidavit, which is basically my medical exemption to some of those leadership in Florida.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Because what I state in there is that the three lipid nanoparticles in Pfizer, if you look at the material safety data sheets on those, it says that they're not validated for human use and not for veterinary use. And it specifically says, I saw that, if there is... If there's any injury caused by these, it's not on us, the [00:50:00] manufacturer, it's on the experimenter who's using this.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Wow.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And we're injecting it into people. It's just mind blowing. Yeah.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: There's not much, yeah. I don't know where this country is going, or where medical community is going. They said that, the love of money is the root of all evil. And that's so clear.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Now, if you don't want to go down this next road just stop me, but how was, how has this affected your spiritual life?

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: If you want to talk about that, if you don't, I understand. It's a very private thing.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Honestly,

Specialist Karolina Stancik: it's positively impacted it because it just, it's very clear the parallel. There's not even really a parallel, right? There's like a crossroad of, do you have faith or are you going to rely on people and people will fail you all the time?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: So something else has to carry you through this, obviously it's why me and why did, bad things happen to good people and that's been like a big [00:51:00] struggle with me. But if I didn't go through it, someone else would have to go through it. And would they be able to fight the fight?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I don't think so because in the end of the day, right? Like I talked to a cardiologist about this. I was like, if I died in my sleep, it would end all the pain, all the suffering, things like that. And that was, probably about eight months ago. I was saying that. But there's a reason why I'm here and going through what I'm going through and I have to acknowledge that, accept it, and just keep fighting.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Someone else needs me to fight it for them,

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: because there's, unfortunately your story is not unique. There are many service members, even generals, who have received the shot. I know of one general in particular who was a Marine general, and he's allegedly a war fighting general, like a man who would kick down doors, and his right hand became dysfunctional to where he can't even pull the trigger.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And so he had to be discharged.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: That's so sad. And... Wow.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And... It's like we need those service members who have been discharged to get the bravery to speak out as you are [00:52:00]

Specialist Karolina Stancik: right, and I think obviously there's a There is a standard and a stigma right there's a standard for service members to basically uphold a certain extent of Obeying the law, but then at the same time are you going to stand up for freedom?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: That's what you're fighting for, right? You're going to fight for that. And I didn't know when I joined the service that this was going to be my fight and whether it's domestic or it's foreign, I'm still fighting something. This just happens to be domestic and people, they really don't know what to do.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: They're afraid, who's going to look at me, who's going to come after me, who's going to sue me this at the other thing. And it's honestly, at this point, I'm not afraid of all that other. BS that could happen, right? My unit calls me they're like, yeah, we know what you've been doing. We know you've been online We know you've been talking about all of this stuff and I was like, okay, that's good What are they gonna do about it?

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I've already signed like protection acts. There's not much they're gonna do

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Oh, and that's why the name of the [00:53:00] show is After Hours with Dr. Sigaloff, because I was told, Oh, you can't talk about COVID vaccine or virus during the duty day or in uniform. And so the name of the show is After Hours because it is after hours.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Exactly. And they said, as long as you're in uniform, you can't talk about it. Guess what? I'm never in uniform. Yeah. Yeah.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And by the 31st of August, I'll never be in uniform again.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Okay. Yeah. I probably won't be in uniform for a really long time. I have doctors saying that I'm not allowed to report for duty or any of that stuff until further cleared.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: I don't think, I don't foresee myself getting cleared anytime soon. So at this point, they can have that one, eat that one up.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Karolina, I want to thank you so much for your fight, for your bravery, for your courage. I want to encourage the listeners to pray for you, and if they have it within their funds to go to the GiveSendGo link down below and help contribute to help with your medical bills.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: And [00:54:00] if there's any way that I can help you in the future, please let me know.

Specialist Karolina Stancik: Thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me here.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Thank you. God bless.

Dr. Sam Sigoloff: Just a reminder for everyone out there, the duty uniform of the day, the full armor of God, lets all make courage more contagious than fear.